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High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

88 点作者 zenbob将近 4 年前

18 条评论

onion2k将近 4 年前
Previous discussion <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27954946" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27954946</a><p>The top comment explains why this is probably a good thing.
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ReaLNero将近 4 年前
To reduce emissions, they&#x27;ve started targeting the gaming industry? The meat industry emits orders of magnitude more pollution (even relative to the number of users of each)! Obviously, politicians would lose favor for targeting the meat industry, and thus have avoided fixing measures which would actually reduce emissions.<p>&gt; They list consoles with taking a bulk of the emissions at 66%, and desktop computers at 31%. In spite of this, consoles are seemingly exempt from the bill.<p>My guess is the exemption is to tend to corporate interests? Absurd.<p>This bill does nothing to target Bitcoin mining (these people custom-build machines anyway).<p>Thoughtless bill through-and-through.<p>Perhaps this will make more kids build their own PCs, and thus fall in love with computing. Pointless hurdles like this kickstart a hacker&#x27;s journey. A silver lining at last.
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fridif将近 4 年前
It feels wrong to ban the sale of a product on the basis that &quot;it might be used on the electrical grid&quot;.<p>There is nothing stopping me from buying a PC and running it on my own off grid solution.<p>If the power companies don&#x27;t like my power consumption, they should simply implement solutions on their end, like charging me more money proportional to my usage.
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jchw将近 4 年前
Not really. The regulations also hit me as relatively reasonable, seemingly having exemptions for highly expandable devices, and largely being concerned with idle energy usage. Furthermore, this was known a long time in advance and is the reasoning for the ATX12VO standard that appeared in 2019.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;JayzTwoCents&#x2F;status&#x2F;1420206010317230081" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;JayzTwoCents&#x2F;status&#x2F;1420206010317230081</a>
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NoPicklez将近 4 年前
Having dived deeper, this is under the tier 1 requirements under California&#x27;s energy efficiency limits. Which the California Energy Commission (CEC) noted to adopt tighter appliance energy standards.<p>However from December 2021, &quot;computers with high-speed networking capability, multi-screen notebooks, notebooks with cyclical behavior, and monitors with high refresh rates&quot; will be covered by the rules&quot; under tier 2 requirements.<p>That is ridiculous.
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garyfirestorm将近 4 年前
Yeah. PCs which consume high power when in idle state.
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Hard_Space将近 4 年前
More detailed information:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;26&#x2F;dell_energy_pcs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;26&#x2F;dell_energy_pcs&#x2F;</a>
TameAntelope将近 4 年前
Are there any restrictions on the purchase of individual computer parts, or restrictions on assembling those parts for a fee? What about the import of those parts, or a whole high-end gaming PC from out of state, post sale?<p>Would leaving the state explicitly to purchase a high powered gaming PC be illegal? A federal crime?<p>This just feels nominal and designed to send a message, but I genuinely don&#x27;t understand that message. Gaming is bad because it hurts the environment? That&#x27;s not right...<p>So many questions, and I&#x27;m suspecting there are fewer answers.
zarzavat将近 4 年前
I&#x27;m confused why the article says it only affects high powered PCs and not workstations, so professionals won&#x27;t be affected. Is a workstation not merely a high powered PC. What exactly is banned here, RGB lighting?
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chroem-将近 4 年前
At a minimum, at least this is ideologically consistent with wanting to ban bitcoin, since both consume approximately the same order of magnitude of energy.
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frostburg将近 4 年前
In this specific instance the consumer is being done a favor by being prevented from buying terrible prebuilts, but the law is absurd.
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_yoqn将近 4 年前
All dark blue states. California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.<p>Pointless vote-grabbing bills are pushed to get headlines and signal the lawmakers virtuosity. Makes me think of the plastic bag &quot;tax&quot; in LA.
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reshie将近 4 年前
how does this apply to builds ie are parts next. many gamers build thier own pc&#x27;s. i am personally no where near these high end but do build my own.
risyachka将近 4 年前
It looks like this ban tries to fix the symptoms, not the problem itself.<p>Also, is there any data that backs this? Like what % of total grid load goes to such PCs?
robertwt7将近 4 年前
I.. don&#x27;t know what to say with this rule<p>Wait, what about people who already own the high end gaming pc?
pope_meat将近 4 年前
First they came for the gamers
bloniac将近 4 年前
But presumably they’re not banning coal powered electricity stations, they’re focusing on banning ….. gaming PCs.<p>What about air conditioning, heaters, houses without insulation…. All banned?
jimbob45将近 4 年前
I fail to see how a progressive residential energy tax wouldn’t have been the better option but I’m super jacked to see progress being made, even if it is a tad misguided.
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