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Investors overseeing $14T call for vote on company climate plans

80 点作者 hassanahmad将近 4 年前

8 条评论

thinkcontext将近 4 年前
The biggest thing these investors should push for is the companies to stop supporting politicians stopping climate progress and industry organizations that do most of the lobbying.
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throwaway894345将近 4 年前
This seems wonderful—I’m a little confused on who these investors are though? Is this some sort of climate fund, or a bunch of ordinary fund managers who are deciding that climate is the best way to maximize returns for their investors (e.g., by making sure the companies they invest in stay ahead of regulation)? Also, I’d be really interested in how the investors are going to evaluate these corporations—it seems like there is a lot of potential for “climate virtue signaling” or other similarly low-impact-but-headline-grabbing solutions?
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taxyz23将近 4 年前
I'm confused as to how these so called investors have any right to make policy? These are managers of other people's money. This is not their own money. They have never asked for a vote by their investors as to whether they should become active in social policies. They could just as well be arguing for more use of fossil fuels. The opinion of money managers should have no place in shaping policy.
seriousquestion将近 4 年前
What are these investors invested in, exactly? So we know what we should invest in, because they will no doubt push it in a direction that's self interested.
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4e530344963049将近 4 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trimread.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;32" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trimread.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;32</a>
ErikVandeWater将近 4 年前
&quot;We want to virtue signal about addressing climate change and since we own equity in your company we want you to cash in on this marketing opportunity as well. Don&#x27;t worry. There aren&#x27;t any consequences if you don&#x27;t follow through.&quot;
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teslabox将近 4 年前
I think volcanic winters deserve more preparation than the possibility that the climate scientists are right. If the climate scientists are right, it&#x27;ll be a <i>slow moving disaster</i>, and we&#x27;ll have to gradually abandon all the buildings next to the ocean that will have to be abandoned anyways (e.g. Surfside Condos in Miami Florida collapsed because the life of reinforced concrete isn&#x27;t much more than 100 years).<p>1816 was <i>The Year Without A Summer.</i> At the time people in Europe didn&#x27;t know why it didn&#x27;t heat up that summer, but it was a catastrophe for humans who lived in the northern hemisphere, in every sense of the word.<p>Catastrophe: an event causing great and often sudden damage or suffering; a disaster. &quot;a national economic catastrophe&quot;<p>&gt; The year 1816 is known as the Year Without a Summer because of severe climate abnormalities that caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1 °F).[1] Summer temperatures in Europe were the coldest on record between the years of 1766–2000.[2] This resulted in major food shortages across the Northern Hemisphere.[3] &gt; &gt; Evidence suggests that the anomaly was predominantly a volcanic winter event caused by the massive 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora in April in the Dutch East Indies (known today as Indonesia). This eruption was the largest in at least 1,300 years (after the hypothesized eruption causing the extreme weather events of 535–536), and perhaps exacerbated by the 1814 eruption of Mayon in the Philippines.<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Year_Without_a_Summer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Year_Without_a_Summer</a><p>1816 Summer in France was 3 degrees celcius cooler than average: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Year_Without_a_Summer#&#x2F;media&#x2F;File:1816_summer.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Year_Without_a_Summer#&#x2F;media&#x2F;F...</a><p>How do you prepare for both a certain &quot;volcanic winter&quot;-type events (losing growing seasons in the northern latitudes) and the possibility of anthropogenic climate change?<p>How many people would die if we had two volcanoes go off, in 2022 and 2023, like what happened in 1814 and 1815?<p>Volcanic Winter: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Volcanic_winter" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Volcanic_winter</a><p>My understanding is the 1814 and 1815 volcanic eruptions reduced the amount of heat absorbed by the oceans [0]. By 1816 the oceans were super-chilly, and didn&#x27;t have enough heat to give off for Europe to have a normal summer.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20013166" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20013166</a><p>Climate is variable. Deal with it. Volcanoes are much more of a threat to humans than slow moving disasters.
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akomtu将近 4 年前
I&#x27;ll start taking these climate protagonists seriously when they make coca-cola stop using plastic bottles.
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