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My tiny side project has had more impact than my decade in the software industry

701 点作者 mwilliamson将近 4 年前

48 条评论

p4bl0将近 4 年前
I'm a CS associate professor. I teach a course which consists in contributing to a free software, in third year at my uni. A few years ago a couple of students decided to make a contribution to GNU ls. The change was to have the output color independent of capitalisation (it is based on filename extension). Their code was accepted. It was a tiny tiny contribution, but it's probable that these few lines of code are and will be executed a few thousands times more than all other contributions my other students made.
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logotype将近 4 年前
I work in finance. About 5 years ago I started building a FIX library on my spare time, out of curiosity. Over the years it has been countless fin tech start-ups as well as big companies reaching out to me about the library, suggesting fixes and features. Since then I have long lost the interest in the technology which enables connectivity to financial exchanges to automate trades, but I keep working on the library for the benefit of others and just the joy of creating something. But what’s the actual impact? Enabling companies getting richer? Greed?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.com&#x2F;logotype&#x2F;fixparser" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.com&#x2F;logotype&#x2F;fixparser</a>
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DrOctagon将近 4 年前
Quite a few years ago as a (very) junior FE dev I used mammoth.js to automate the generation of a biennial report. Three months had been earmarked for the task as this is what it had taken in previous years (due to bad tools and lack of expertise). I had it done in less than a week by using mammoth. Mike was also very accommodating with questions I&#x27;m pleased I cant remember as I&#x27;m sure they were embarrassingly simple.<p>The project still took three months as it was one of those special type of organisations, but it wasn&#x27;t due to the HTML generation :)<p>Thank you for mammoth.js!
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tppiotrowski将近 4 年前
Companies isolate devs from customers by using Product Managers. PMs interview customers and then decide what to build. By the time the tasks get to the dev it’s hard to understand the motivation and impact. The best companies I’ve worked at put the engineers and customers in close contact so they understood the impact and shortcomings in their work. Alternately you need to foster a culture of shared purpose where you have “faith” that your work has impact.
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bartread将近 4 年前
This is an interesting and thoughtful piece but I think Mike (the author) does rather underestimate his impact.<p>I never worked with him directly but we both overlapped at Redgate for several years. During the time I was there he wrote code that was integrated into Simple Talk (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.red-gate.com&#x2F;simple-talk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.red-gate.com&#x2F;simple-talk&#x2F;</a>), which is&#x2F;was Redgate&#x27;s website for publishing content, articles, tutorials etc., useful to SQL Server and .NET professionals. I believe he also worked on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sqlservercentral.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sqlservercentral.com&#x2F;</a>, which remains the leading community site for SQL Server professionals. The old Simple Talk site is several years gone now, sadly, but Mike worked on it during its growth phase and (guessing somewhat here) most successful period.<p>These are sites that are used and useful to hundreds of thousands of SQL Server and .NET professionals every month. Yes, they are also promotional vehicles for Redgate and its products, and a core part of Redgate&#x27;s marketing strategy, but it is possible for them to be both marketing and useful.<p>Mike is an excellent engineer, and very much cut from the get (valuable) things done mould - which mammoth.js firmly underscores. I have no idea what he&#x27;s doing at the moment but, if you get the opportunity to work with him, you should jump at it.
tmp65535将近 4 年前
Similarly, I&#x27;ve been writing respectable software for decades but I&#x27;m fairly certain that my most widely used piece of software, by a wide margin, is a mildly pornographic app (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;driftwheeler.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;driftwheeler.com</a>)<p>This app, published in 2017, has a continuously growing population of users from all over the world. I get email every day asking whether soft1 is the only server, thanking me, suggesting improvements, etc.<p>It&#x27;s ironic, and there is a lesson to be learned here.
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Wronnay将近 4 年前
I think many devs have that feeling...<p>But often simple things have a very big effect - in my first job I made some simple scripts which imported data from machines into an ERP System.<p>I also made some bigger projects with feature rich GUIs at my first job.<p>The simple scripts probably sill import data every workday and automate a task previously made by humans since multiple years, some of the GUIs weren&#x27;t even used daily before I left that job...<p>So I feel like the simple scripts will be there for a long time and save many work hours while some of the feature rich GUIs probably weren&#x27;t necessary...
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mwcampbell将近 4 年前
&gt; Sometimes I wonder whether it&#x27;d be possible to earn a living off mammoth. Although there&#x27;s an option to donate - I currently get a grand total of £1.15 a week from regular donations - it&#x27;s not something I push very hard.<p>There&#x27;s no shame in making the source available but using a license that requires payment for commercial use, like the Prosperity [1] license.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prosperitylicense.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prosperitylicense.com&#x2F;</a>
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sheetjs将近 4 年前
Our story is very similar. I wrote a small library for converting XLSX and XLS files to CSV. Over the years, that grew into one of the most popular open source libraries on npm&#x2F;github: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;SheetJS&#x2F;sheetjs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;SheetJS&#x2F;sheetjs</a><p>Back in 2015, &#x27;patio11 reached out to us. In addition to a structured license purchase, he gave great insights and actually wrote a blog post about the experience <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kalzumeus.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;design-and-implementation-of-csvexcel-upload-for-saas&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kalzumeus.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;design-and-implementati...</a><p>Today, we offer paid software builds to solve related problems and it allows us to work on SheetJS full-time!
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DangitBobby将近 4 年前
&gt; I don&#x27;t know what the total amount of time saved is, but I&#x27;m almost certain that it&#x27;s at least hundreds of times more than the time I&#x27;ve spent working on the tool.<p>To me, this is the <i>entire point</i> of software and automation. To give time and money back to people, because I want to make the world better. I see software being priced to just <i>barely</i> be worth it for the buyer because it saves time (e.g. Mailgun and Auth0). When I write software, I want to price it so that it saves them so much money adoption is a no-brainer. &quot;Free&quot; pricing would be included in that, of course. Unfortunately, I also don&#x27;t write much useful software.
justinclift将近 4 年前
Sounds fairly normal over the course of a lifetime.<p>One is &quot;the day job&quot;, used to pay bills.<p>The other is &quot;what I feel good about as a human being&quot;. It&#x27;s great when both align, but that&#x27;s not the standard thing that seems to happen.<p>Take it as a useful data point, not something to get bent out of shape over. :)
semireg将近 4 年前
A few months ago my tiny side project blossomed into a 6-figure income stream. It’s an electron app that designs and prints labels.<p>Users import spreadsheet data and generate barcodes. Since I have a customer base and a target market, I’ve had every one of my mentors tell me I need to stop writing features and work more on marketing and analytics. But it’s not as fun!<p>Instead, I find myself up late at night working on USB weight scale integration for grocer&#x2F;farm labeling kiosk. I’m looking for beta testers that have a need for such a thing.<p>Check it out at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;label.live" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;label.live</a>
pxue将近 4 年前
I&#x27;ve worked on multiple specialty projects billed in the 10M+&#x2F;year range with a handful of client stakeholders.<p>I&#x27;m sure it made impact but at most it saved &lt;10 people a couple of hours a day.<p>I&#x27;d compare this phenomenon as if drug companies spend millions of dollars to cure an obscure disease a handful of rich people have.
sdevonoes将近 4 年前
Isn&#x27;t the statement a bit obvious? Most of the tech companies out there were not born to make an impact on society, they were born to make money (which is totally fine). Only a handful of companies can be proud of making money while actually having an impact (good or bad) on society (e.g., Apple). Most of us (us != HN crowd) work for companies in the first group.<p>On the other hand, the vast majority of side projects have a very different: to have fun and&#x2F;or being useful. Things that are useful usually make an impact on the society.
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kragen将近 4 年前
This is the magic of free software licensing: by removing barriers to sharing, it multiplies the usefulness of whatever is licensed by a much larger number of users, who are all free to repurpose it as they see fit. Most of my own free software is pretty radically useless, but I&#x27;ve written Wikipedia pages that thousands of people read every day, and made improvements to countless others. It would be difficult for anything I do in a normal job to have as big an effect on the world, either positive or negative.
praveen9920将近 4 年前
I once helped a friend by writing a simple script to automate sending series of mails which were usually composed manually with attachments and same-ish subject and content.<p>This boosted their productivity at least by 60%. I was more proud and satisfied with that simple piece of code than my entire professional work that year.
david_allison将近 4 年前
Author&#x27;s donation links [mammoth.js]:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;liberapay.com&#x2F;mwilliamson" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;liberapay.com&#x2F;mwilliamson</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ko-fi.com&#x2F;mwilliamson" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ko-fi.com&#x2F;mwilliamson</a>
icemelt8将近 4 年前
I think the only other team who has made such a feature is Wordpress contributors, Wordpress offers a way to copy paste word documents in their Text box, and it formats correctly.<p>Perhaps you can launch commercial license for your library, and license it to famous CMSs, such as Umbraco or Craft. That way you can make a living on it too.
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zrail将近 4 年前
In 2015 or so I wrote a tiny tool for people to record the outgoing voicemail message from their phone. In the intervening years it&#x27;s helped more than 23,000 people move on from loss, save a grown child&#x27;s cute voice, and lots of other things. It hasn&#x27;t been significantly financially rewarding but it&#x27;s incredibly fulfilling to help someone on such a personal level.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vmsave.petekeen.net" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vmsave.petekeen.net</a> if you&#x27;re curious.
ushakov将近 4 年前
have you tried working in public sector? i’m proud my software runs in our hospitals and saves hours for doctors, they now spend treating more patients!
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alien_将近 4 年前
Same here, for most of my 15+ years career in IT I&#x27;ve been doing DevOps stuff, mostly writing small scripts and infrastructure code, occasionally hacking on existing projects enough to do drive-by contributions.<p>About 6 years ago I started AutoSpotting, an open source tool designed to reduce AWS costs by automatically replacing on-demand instances with up to 90% cheaper Spot instances, it was meant to be my playground project for learning golang.<p>I estimate it saved in aggregate in the tens or maybe even hundreds of millions of dollars and multiple companies have been built around my code or reimplementing the same idea.<p>It&#x27;s still a side project that I work on occasionally but at some point I tried to monetize it through support and custom development. I failed to get enough traction to become a full time job, currently make some $400&#x2F;month from about a dozen users whom I sell precompiled binaries through Patreon.
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busymom0将近 4 年前
I think there’s tons of developers who feel this way. Some of the brightest minds and smartest people go to work for tech companies simply working on figuring out how to keep an ad in front of your eyes for a few extra milliseconds.
nattaylor将近 4 年前
I use a Mammoth WordPress plugin on a few sites. I dislike prominent donation nags, but if just popped up when I converted a document I think I&#x27;d be compelled to donate. It&#x27;s a real time saver.
simonblack将近 4 年前
&quot;Word Documents&quot;: Now there&#x27;s a blast from the past. In my last 3 decades, I&#x27;ve used a UNIX-style operating system as my day-to-day operating system.<p>It used to be that my ever-present problem was in dealing with Word Documents. Practically every document I received back then <i>was</i> a Word Document. They were ubiquitous. If you couldn&#x27;t read a Word Document you couldn&#x27;t do business.<p>I used WABI on Solaris to run Word itself in the 90s. It wasn&#x27;t always workable. So a lot of the time I was dual-booting to Windows and running the true Office.<p>In the Noughties, I was able to stay in my UNIX-like system and run Star Office followed by Libre Office to read the fairly common Word Documents that came my way.<p>But now, in the early Twenties, I only just realised that over the course of the 2010s, all of those Word Documents just dried up and blew away. These days, I might receive perhaps one to two .docx files a year, and Libre Office handles them without me having to think about it.<p>But I think the biggest killer of Word Documents has been Microsoft itself. By trying to stay proprietary and keep the free Office suites continually playing catch-up Microsoft kept extending and extending Word&#x27;s features. If you didn&#x27;t have the latest (expensive) Microsoft Office, you couldn&#x27;t read the latest Word Documents. People got sick of this and the world gradually moved, over the course of the decade or so, to sending and receiving .PDFs.<p>Adobe were smarter than Microsoft. They realised that a .PDF could be available to all, no matter what operating system one used, and everybody could use it. That being the case, everybody <i>DID</i> use it.
jacquesm将近 4 年前
Same here, I spent many years on complex and large pieces of software with relatively little impact, and an &#x27;all nighter&#x27; pretty much changed the world for real time video on the web. Pretty weird when you consider that it was mostly gluing together pieces that already existed and adding a small HTTP server.<p>I haven&#x27;t been able to replicate anything close to that success in all the years since then.
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tppiotrowski将近 4 年前
I’ve worked at a VC funded startup that burned $3 million for 2,000 users.<p>I built a side project that I put on Reddit that got 5,000 hits last month.<p>The second seems like better ROI
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felgueres将近 4 年前
I’d love to see folks plan to monetize their product from the get go and not as an afterthought.<p>They should get measurable, direct compensation for the value created for others — be that saved time, joy or something else.<p>I feel there’s this quasi-apologetic approach to selling software when there should only be respect for those who can create value for others by their own creative and productive ability.
lukevp将近 4 年前
I think my career overall has been pretty high impact - I ran a team that built new systems from the ground up that were used by a team of 2k store employees to run daily operational tasks, optimizing their performance and ux tremendously, as well as building e-commerce into a website used by half a million people a month.<p>I still feel the most proud of a little library I made one weekend a few years ago [0], that’s now used all over the place. I get issues and contributions from Latin America, China, Japan, across the US and Europe, and Australia. I’ve done consulting work based on this library. It’s a great feeling to know I built something that others find useful directly and isn’t a tangential thing that was built as part of different business.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;lukevp&#x2F;ESC-POS-.NET" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;lukevp&#x2F;ESC-POS-.NET</a> — check it out if you have a need to print to receipt printers from C#, and give it a star!
nubb将近 4 年前
This happens in the crypto currency space all the time. I have friends that have launched very thought out projects that they spend a significant amount of time on. Then they’ll launch some meme project and it will do 1000x better. It’s certainly a weird feeling.
georgeburdell将近 4 年前
As a dev at a large company, I&#x27;m wondering how the author went about open sourcing the side project. My employment contract stipulates that anything I write for work is owned by the company. This company wouldn&#x27;t have any motivation to let me open source the work I do, which in my case does not go into any product.<p>The reason I ask is that I have written, as part of my day job, a scientific library in C# that doesn&#x27;t appear to have any public equivalent and I know addresses common tasks in the industry. I would love to open source it, if not for beer money, but for visibility to help my career --- I&#x27;m at that point where promotions only happen with externally-visible accomplishments.
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cdubzzz将近 4 年前
My first side project[0] is almost four years old at this point and continues to get lots of interest and use. It’s been really fun to engage with its users.<p>My second side project[1] has not got nearly as much traction but also has a much smaller target audience and I haven’t really got fully finished.<p>I do find my professional work rewarding and valuable but there is definitely something different about the side projects. They feel like much bigger accomplishments.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;babybuddy&#x2F;babybuddy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;babybuddy&#x2F;babybuddy</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kcal-app&#x2F;kcal" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kcal-app&#x2F;kcal</a>
JoeAltmaier将近 4 年前
These kind of translators are fun. Long ago I wrote a PL&#x2F;M (Intel proprietary compiler)- to - C convertor. It used context to translate the simple looping constructs of PL&#x2F;M to the most congenial C loop (for, do, while). It translated the single macro mechanism into either &#x27;const foo=x&#x27;, simple #define or #define with arguments. It moved declarations into context. What it produced looked like C, not &#x27;C&#x2F;LM&#x27;.<p>It can be a blast to tinker with these, iterating until the output looks pretty sweet. One of my favorite projects. I can imagine the docx - to - css translation allowed for lots of neat tricks.
betwixthewires将近 4 年前
I know the feeling.<p>I&#x27;ve found that for the most part, you can work for money or you can work for impact. Commercial pressures prevent real disruption once a product is well established, and when it isn&#x27;t, your disruption is corralled to the end of earning market share for your company, so anything disruptive that would go against that is not implemented.<p>That&#x27;s why I don&#x27;t work in software anymore. It may seem weird, but i would rather work a bullshit job. But I do write software, and it is all FOSS, and I pick my projects based on one principle: minimum effort for maximum impact.
vinceguidry将近 4 年前
I guess I can see why this would be surprising to most programmers. It doesn&#x27;t surprise me at all. Why would the wishes of any profit-seeking enterprise, who serves a very select clientele, those willing to pay for what the business provides, have anywhere close to the impact of a software project chosen out of a random itch, taken to the point where others actually get interested in it, and use to build their side projects, each of which can provide their own impact?<p>Unless you&#x27;re a big techco with worldwide reach, what could compete with that?
JabavuAdams将近 4 年前
Good work!<p>On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.strike.coop&#x2F;bullshit-jobs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.strike.coop&#x2F;bullshit-jobs&#x2F;</a>
lifeisstillgood将近 4 年前
I am banging on about software literacy again, but if the users were more software literate they <i>coukd</i> have written something themselves, and if we lived in a software literate society we would reject inaccessible formats thus making the whole thing easier- same as the ERP system mentioned elsewhere.<p>We have a long way to go before the code and the data is truly free.
iaw将近 4 年前
I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to help hundreds of thousands of refugees in a small way through my day job. It&#x27;s probably my greatest contribution to the world to make these peoples lives marginally better after everything they went through.<p>They&#x27;ll never know who I am but I am so proud to have improved their lives even a little.
swayvil将近 4 年前
One level down. My serious side project (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;241051006" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;241051006</a>) is arguably less cool than my casual side project (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;308956882" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;308956882</a>)
intricatedetail将近 4 年前
Similar experience. I created a little project and it has become very popular. It&#x27;s also completed so there is no need to develop anything apart from updating any security issues. When I feel down I always think of that little project. Hoping to make another one by accident one day.
butz将近 4 年前
Converting Word documents to HTML and fixing layout and formatting issues afterwards is a huge pain of mine. I usually end up pasting content from Word (or more recently, from LibreOffice Writer) to CKEditor, cleaning extra formatting, like fonts and only then moving content to CMS.
woranl将近 4 年前
Client side document rendering has a lot of potential. There is currently no open source library that can render docx file as nice as mammoth. There are some commercial libraries that rely on WASM, but they are generally bloated and you can’t read their source.
kristianp将近 4 年前
Impressive that he also supports ports to 4 other languages. Usually authors aren&#x27;t interested in doing ports themselves, but that&#x27;s often for a more complicated project.
ChuckMcM将近 4 年前
Great example of how fixing a problem that other people have is often much more impactful than fixing a problem that your manager has.
mountainriver将近 4 年前
This is why all tools should start as OSS tools
ChrisMarshallNY将近 4 年前
I can relate. My side project (<i>not</i> tiny) has had a much larger impact on the world than anything I ever got paid to do.
0x262d将近 4 年前
This article starts to get at an interesting controversy about the definition of value. Is the value of a project equal to the amount of labor time it saves over previously used methods? Or is it equal to the amount of labor time it took to create the project? I think most software devs would intuitively pick the former, and that is what the article sides with and also what the market awards to innovations in the short term, but I think there is merit to the latter and people should at least consider it. The article presents an apparent contradiction (the author&#x27;s side project was coded in a few hours and has arguably had more of a positive impact than their entire day job career&#x27;s output) but that contradiction is resolved by the latter definition of value, the labor theory of value.<p>The labor theory of value explanation for this is straightforward. In general, LTV asserts that the value output of some work approximates the amount of work that ordinarily has to go into it, or more precisely, of the socially necessary labor time going into that work (ie, the time it would take an average worker to do it without slacking off). This is because if you wanted that work done and didn&#x27;t care how it got done, the socially necessary labor time would be the real cost of doing it yourself or paying someone else to support themselves while they do it (before various market dynamics and other distorting factors - it is an idealized model). I.e., in an assembly line, the cost of a part is the cost of raw materials + the cost of the labor added to them. This seems straightforward for assembly line work, but is a little less intuitive when the actual work is about making other people&#x27;s work more efficient, which a lot of software dev falls into. But if someone simply said to themselves &quot;I need the functionality of mammoth.js&quot;, the core idea still applies - of being able to replace the worker, hire a generic software dev, and get comparable work (or at least, good enough work), for a similarly low amount of value. Another way to think of it is that mammoth.js might save a lot of people a lot of time, but getting some version of mammoth.js implemented is probably historically inevitable and has a fixed and much smaller cost to actually do.<p>How does this resolve the contradiction in the article? Well, mwilliamson&#x27;s day job career labor output might possibly have saved less time of other people&#x27;s work than mammoth.js. But their day job career labor output probably couldn&#x27;t have been replaced in any way but by a similarly large amount of time and effort from other developer(s). Meanwhile, mammoth.js could be reimplemented in a similarly small amount of time by someone else, maybe taking a couple of tries to get it right. If mammoth.js hadn&#x27;t been written at the time it was, maybe that would have happened.<p>This isn&#x27;t to discount ingenuity or insight going into this side project, or the usefulness of something like mammoth.js being in the right place and time. But I think it is a more precise way to think about how much value and what kinds are being added to the world by larger or smaller amounts of effort. In other words, devs shouldn&#x27;t feel bad about having worked hard on stuff that is less neatly labor-saving than a small widget, as long as that hard work turned out to be useful.
aaron695将近 4 年前
As an employee your contribution to the world is just a little more than your wage. Which, since you take your wage home, is just a little.
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nikkinana将近 4 年前
I wonder who owns that code?