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What we lost – a paean, perhaps, to RSS

74 点作者 sandbags将近 4 年前

16 条评论

CobrastanJorji将近 4 年前
There's been a recent season of mourning the loss of RSS, but I remain confused about the whole thing because I'm still a happy RSS user. Sure, it's not exactly today's ascendant technology, but it still works fine, most of the websites and blogs I read still quietly support it, and there's a happy little ecosystem of RSS aggregator websites and programs. While I'm a bit sad that a lot of folks don't know about RSS (and also curious about how they even use the web), I'm not feeling any pain as a user.
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sandbags将近 4 年前
I&#x27;ll address this here: it&#x27;s something that I took as a given so didn&#x27;t cover when I wrote the post. RSS is not dead, as a protocol it still works, some sites still publish RSS feeds and some of them are even more than useless excerpts designed to get a click.<p>What is dead, or at least like Arthur, waiting for the right moment to come back is the idea of RSS as a system for connecting content streams together and building higher order services on top.<p>When too much thought &amp; conversation is captured inside Facebook, Twitter, Slack and all these other services who depend upon owning you &amp; your content, the RSS system cannot thrive.<p>I saw amazing possibilities arising out of individuals publishing their content, increasing use of micro-formats to add semantic information, and layering of services. That future didn&#x27;t happen.<p>That&#x27;s what I am sad about.
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animesh将近 4 年前
The death of RSS&#x2F;ATOM posts just confuses and amuses me. I am content with following all my favorite feeds (around 50) using QuiteRSS on the desktop. Have been doing this since the sunset of Google Reader. It works and there is a reason why popular bloggers and thought leaders publish a feed link on their blogs.<p>Sometimes I feel people who see RSS&#x2F;ATOM as a dead thing stopped seeing the existence of RSS feeds in their circles and then proceed to proclaim it dead.
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thaumasiotes将近 4 年前
When did we lose RSS? It&#x27;s going strong right now.
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blakesterz将近 4 年前
As an old timer myself I remember Matt&#x27;s work, and even exchanged emails on the topic with him way back in 2003! (I have most of my emails dating back to about &#x27;99)<p>I agree and can&#x27;t help but hope this RSS thing and blogs will make a come back!
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incanus77将近 4 年前
RSS is alive (again) and well again for me, too. NetNewsWire was the first Mac app I bought in 2002, and today I&#x27;m using the latest incarnation of it.<p>The biggest difference to me about modern RSS is the unrealized potential and lack of imagination.<p>There were some efforts at making it a bit more successful around 2005 with the likes of Feedburner and ads, but eventually it was realized that walled gardens were easier than open standards.<p>If we had put one tenth as much effort and imagination into making RSS <i>a</i> way that you could get timely information from the web, in such a way that it was as common and no-brainer to people as email is, as we did for web ads, user tracking, and email spy pixels, I think the web would be a lot healthier today.
anigbrowl将近 4 年前
I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s RSS (which as many people pointed out, still exists; it&#x27;s just not fashionable any more). The real problem is that the web is like a flashy magazine with very little content surrounded by glaring eye candy. RSS (like many other things before it) was about data sources being fed into a client of your choice and configuration.<p>The web has its good and bad points, but the web is different from the net, and much of what drives the web is bad for the net.
6510将近 4 年前
One or more &lt;category&gt; tags can be used in the &lt;channel&gt; and in each &lt;item&gt; to describe their content. They can either be single tags or they can be paths like &#x2F;publishing or &#x2F;publishing&#x2F;rss Each one can have a domain attribute that points at an url that describes the categorization taxonomy. We no longer have such things for RSS I think? I only know of syndic8 but I&#x27;ve never seen it in action.<p>There is also the &lt;rating&gt; element which is even more exotic. It supplies an advisory label for the content in a feed, formatted according to the specification for the Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS).<p>You can even run your own rating platform.<p>The categories are for grouping things. A typical blog would have few of them and many entries in each. The tags are more chaotic. Its fine to have a single article with a tag. The domain attribute is for a web directory (I think?) And with the rating system you can give your own units to a property like how advanced, complex or RSS-ish an article is. (arrogance in nano-Dijkstra)<p>All of that combined make for the best science fiction story.
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kryptiskt将近 4 年前
I wonder if what RSS needs is a bit of a rebranding. Or rather, the delivery of text content over RSS could use what podcasts did for the delivery of audio over RSS. Blogcast, podblogging, or something.
lupinglade将近 4 年前
How does one monitor stories from different sources without RSS anyway? That&#x27;s how I got here.
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noman-land将近 4 年前
There are a number of fun ways to consume RSS.<p>NextCloud has an RSS reader app. Thunderbird has a whole RSS subscriptions area. AntennaPod for podcasts. Those are just a few.
herodoturtle将近 4 年前
Lots of interesting comments on here discussing the benefits of RSS, I&#x27;m keen to try it out.<p>Can anyone recommend a really simple RSS setup for Linux?<p>I work in vim if that means anything in this context whatsoever (I honestly have no idea).
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lkrubner将近 4 年前
Way back in 2006 I wrote a very detailed story about the battles that were raging around RSS. It&#x27;s only history now, but I think it is both entertaining and educational. For anyone who might be interested:<p>RSS has been damaged by in-fighting among those who advocate for it<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smashcompany.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;rss-has-been-damaged-by-in-fighting-among-those-who-advocate-for-it" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smashcompany.com&#x2F;technology&#x2F;rss-has-been-damaged-...</a>
gego将近 4 年前
Just fire up your tinytinyrss server and os&#x2F;mobile clients and you are good. RSS is still going strong... <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tt-rss.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tt-rss.org&#x2F;</a> You can also create feeds from sources that do not provide them, e.g. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fetchrss.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fetchrss.com&#x2F;</a>
hopesthoughts将近 4 年前
Wow I&#x27;m definitely not a fan of these kind of posts!! In fact, I can&#x27;t stand them.
salutonmundo将近 4 年前
i&#x27;ve decided that every time someone posts an article bemoaning the death of RSS i&#x27;m going to comment that i, in fact, found out about it through the HN RSS feed
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