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Angry Birds Maker Sued for Patent Violation

101 点作者 dean将近 14 年前

24 条评论

Spyro7将近 14 年前
I'll be completely honest. Prior to this I disliked patent trolls in a sort of abstract way, but now, I have a visceral feeling of disgust just thinking about patent trolls.<p>Lodsys in particular seems to have no shame.<p>I wonder if a few more of these higher profile lawsuits might pull the general public's attention from whatever the latest reality TV show is. Maybe then the political system could do something useful to stop the patent lawsuit insanity.
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loire280将近 14 年前
Hopefully Rovio is big and well-connected enought to fight back, and maybe make a legal dent in this problem.<p>This weekend's This American Life was an hour long feature on the software patent mess. It's a good intro to the situation, especially to the non-tech public. Share with your friends (and send donations as a thank-you!).<p><a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/w...</a>
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yellowbkpk将近 14 年前
Before anyone makes a comment here I implore you to listen to this past weekend's This American Life. Here's a handy link: <a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/w...</a><p>More on-topic: they finish off the show by pointing out that Lodsys's registered address (104 E Houston St. #190) is the same as Oasis Research, a front company for Intellectual Ventures: the ultimate patent troll and the focus of the entire show.
yason将近 14 年前
I realized one point regarding patents that I haven't thought of before. Patents shouldn't be transferable or saleable.<p>A patent should be nominated to its inventor personally and for a company to profit from it they would have to connect with that person. They could employ him or otherwise compensate him for being able to do things that were patented.<p>This would diminish possibilities for all kinds of trickery and return the power back to the actual inventor. A company who wishes to invest in patents would have to compensate these inventors more than fairly to reach an agreement where the inventor only licenses the patent to that company. Futile, bogus, or useless patents wouldn't be paid for so nobody wouldn't bother to file them. Inventors would have a big financial incentive to invent things that are truly good enough to be worth somebody paying for them.
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danmaz74将近 14 年前
The real problem is that you should only be able to patent a solution to a difficult problem, while these "broad" patents often look more like you are patenting the problem itself, so that any solution is covered. This is totally against the original idea of patents (either software or hardware).
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extension将近 14 年前
Rovio is in a unique position to effect change here. They should yank Angry Birds from US app stores and say "sorry America, you can't play because your patent system sucks". That would create the kind of mass upset that might actually get something done about this problem.<p>Giving in to Lodsys might make fiscal sense in the short term, but they would be painting a target on themselves for the snowballing patent troll industry. All genuine technology companies, but especially those at the formative stages like Rovio, need to think about the future health of their industry. Don't negotiate with terrorists.
Shenglong将近 14 年前
US Courts need a script: <i>if(plaintiff == Lodsys){ dismiss; }</i><p>Lodsys cases are the most BS cases I've ever seen. Unlike large <i>evil corporations</i> who are at least contributing some sort of innovation, all Lodsys manages to do is stifle innovation, and screw over the entire public.<p>Too bad we can't file a class-action suit against Lodsys for emotional damages.
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timmaxw将近 14 年前
The problem is with the US patent system, not with the patent trolls.<p>The benefit to society of granting a patent is that it gives companies an incentive to do R&#38;D. The cost to society of granting a patent is that other companies have to pay money to use the same idea. In a healthy patent system, the average benefit of a patent is equal to the average cost of a patent.<p>If the average benefit is higher than the average cost, the Patent Office should be more lenient in granting patents, or should lengthen the term of the patent. The former solution would increase the number of patents, but the new ones would have lower average benefit. The latter solution would reduce the average cost of a patent. Likewise, if the average benefit is lower than the average cost, the Patent Office should be stricter in granting patents or should shorten the term of the patent.<p>The average benefit from a software patent is quite low; most software patents are for an obvious solution to an uncommon problem, not for a clever solution to a common problem. The average cost for a software patent is (currently) pretty low too, because patent holders usually don't assert their rights; but if patent holders asserted their rights whenever they could, the average cost would be very high. The solution is for the US Patent Office to be much stricter about assigning software patents.<p>In a healthy patent system, patent trolls aren't a bad thing. Patent trolls raise the price of patents by buying and using them; that increases the incentives to do R&#38;D. Since in a healthy patent system, the cost to society of the patent troll asserting its patent rights is equal to the benefits from the R&#38;D that gets done, that isn't a problem.
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sixtofour将近 14 年前
I've been hoping for a patent frenzy for some time, where all the major holders sue all the major violators. Maybe freedom and innovation will rise out of the ashes.
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domador将近 14 年前
The next Rovio game I'd like to see: "Angry Nerds", where you hurl enraged developers at patent trolls and the structures under which they take cover (causing very satisfying damage, of course).
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dpcan将近 14 年前
Does anyone know how the patents were violated?<p>As in, what is actually being done that was "invented" by Lodsys so that other developers can either avoid it altogether, or know if they need to license something.
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mattvot将近 14 年前
I don't tend to agree with groups like Lulzec and Anonymous, but please think about Lodsys as a target.
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indrax将近 14 年前
I thought this was going to be about a method for destroying pigs in structures by accelerating birds through the use of an elastic or spring-loaded device.
SideSwipe将近 14 年前
This patent crap is getting ridiculous. We should create a script to auto-generate Patent Violation Notices in masse to be sent to patent trolls. Business should be about creating value, not leeching and hurting others to steal their value and make it your own.
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cmelbye将近 14 年前
Are there any representatives or senators working on fixing this yet? Is there a petition that we can sign? Some kind of site to raise awareness?
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MrVitaliy将近 14 年前
It is obvious that the overwhelming majority of HN dislikes software patents. Hence, links like these are simply religious arguments.<p>If Angry Birds wins this case, people will complain that given enough money companies can ignore laws. If Angry Birds loses, people keep complaining about patent trolls.
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sorbus将近 14 年前
By Lodsys, of course.
nikcub将近 14 年前
A day after the big news in tech was about patents, the TAL episode and Intellectual Ventures and they pull another crazy patent lawsuit, just to drive the point home.<p>They are making themselves a big target. Those that didn't really follow patent news previously likely all know now who Lodsys/IV etc. are and what they are up to.<p>I hope these cases lead to reform of the entire system.
biturd将近 14 年前
This is going to be the case that breaks the USPTO system to bits. Either that, or no new companies are going to release in the US, and instead create shells in other countries, which will only hurt our economy more.
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siphr将近 14 年前
The greed machine is at it again. This is exactly why I hate patents. Innovate or take a seat and be entertained. Do not leech or you'll bring the whole system down.
cridal将近 14 年前
Bottom-eating scum...
kjames将近 14 年前
I'm sorry, but how did Lodsys lose out here?
shareme将近 14 年前
Remember folks.. MS has been using scare tactics for 20 years to keep firms form choosing Linux..with those efforts being dismal failures and at times including patent trolling..this is the new MS Patent trolling chapter of Linux..
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monochromatic将近 14 年前
1. Post on HN about evil software patents.<p>2. Receive karma.
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