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Zillow, Other Tech Firms Are in an ‘Arms Race’ to Buy Up American Homes

63 点作者 rcfaj7obqrkayhn将近 4 年前

10 条评论

molyss将近 4 年前
I have come to see house flipping as a horrendous scam that kills the economy and is all but sustainable. And real estate agent are complicit and making the problem worse because it’s making them money<p>One of my accountances is a professional house flipper. They claim to regularly make over 100k of profit on a single house in less that 3 months. Keep in mind they contract out all the manual labour.<p>The 1st step is obviously to find a house, preferably before it hits the market. Then, contact the seller’s agent and promise them that if they sell you the house for a good price you’ll go through them when you sell the house after having flipped it. At this point, the agent’s incentive is disconnected from the seller’s: If they can convince to sell off market, they’ll sell quicker, make the commission on a lower price but expects to make a much higher commission on the 2nd sale than what the 1st one would have fetched. The seller gets fucked.<p>Then, the flipper finds the cheapest contractor with immediate availability. cheap+available is usually a bad sign in term of quality. They have them do the minimal work to make the house “look good”. No deep electricity, certainly no plumbing, rooftop or foundations.<p>After a couple of months. Put on the market. At this point, you want to put it on the market at (original price paid+original agent’s fees+second sale agent’s fees+remodel cost+your sizeable margin) that ends up easily increasing the original pricd by 30%, sometimes more.<p>The buyer gets fucked too because they pay extra for shitty work. They’ll have to do more work on the house, both short term and long term.<p>But the ones who get really fucked are the other potential buyers : it’s super hard to find a house that wasn’t flipped, prices go up because everyone wants whatever the neighbors house got sold for, there’s even less contractors available<p>I’m convince flippers have a negative impact on society at large.
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flerovium将近 4 年前
Does anyone remember the U.S. housing financial crisis?<p>&quot;Homes are a place to live, not an investment&quot;<p>The more things change, the more they stay the same.
hamburgerwah将近 4 年前
I have seen my home double in value in a year. Appreciate 15% just last month alone. It is very hard to point to any non-bubble explanation for it. A neighboring home which sold 3 months ago in two days and has seen its backyard and appliances improved will go back on the market in 2 weeks at a 25% increase over the june price. It will also probably sell in a matter of days. I find it difficult to believe this is sustainable.
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nullc将近 4 年前
I&#x27;ve been contemplating what an anti-flipping deed restriction might look like... something that forwards profits made from resale back to the prior seller, with a decay based on how long ago it was.<p>But with extremely low interests rates, it&#x27;s far from clear that a flipper wouldn&#x27;t mind holding a property 3 years. Perhaps there needs to be a slowdown term when they don&#x27;t occupy it.
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pontifier将近 4 年前
I&#x27;ve been interested in how to drastically upend the real estate market for quite a few years. My prefered solution involves creating a real estate backed complementary currency...<p>This currency would be based on algorithmic appraisals of the intrinsic objective and quantifiable qualities that a particular piece of real estate had. The algorithmic appraisal would be designed to appraise the property for the same value over time.<p>When a seller wants to sell a property, an amount of currency equal to the appraised value is generated, and given to the seller.<p>When a home is purchased, it must be purchased using this currency, which is then destroyed.<p>This allows for several key differences over traditional home buying and selling. It creates a sort of limbo in which a home does not have an owner.<p>The first is that as a seller, you can have your funds immediately without having to find a buyer.<p>Second is that it moves volatility in housing pricing to a single value: The exchange rate of this housing currency.<p>Third, because the outstanding currency equals the total of all the un-owned property, it is likely to be a way to invest in the idea of real estate without actually owning any specific property at the moment.<p>The un-owned properties could be rented out to fund the operation of the system, to help provide funds to stabilize the market and exchange rate, and take care of operational expenses.<p>I bought a domain a few years ago to act as the focus of this idea.<p>REITcoin.com<p>Is anyone interested in going forward with this? I&#x27;m willing to sell the domain for the right price, or an equity share in the business behind it. I haven&#x27;t had a chance to execute on it yet because I have so many other things that are taking priority.
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sesuximo将近 4 年前
I’m hopeful that this will cut the friction of buying or selling. Spending so much on brokers, taxes, and the various fees is out of hand.
gbronner将近 4 年前
Average consumer has no idea how to organize and hire contractors for home improvements. House flippers who do this at scale add a fair amount of value, and also add value for the contractors
kory将近 4 年前
This is really about capturing agent commission at scale since they aren’t renting out houses and can’t bet on infinite appreciation.<p>This is a great program. The ability to sell your current house and keep living in it while buying your new house is a game changer. It removes the need for contingent offers, which in many markets have 0 chance to get accepted.
Overton-Window将近 4 年前
&gt; World Economic Forum: Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;wef&#x2F;status&#x2F;849459333486317568" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;wef&#x2F;status&#x2F;849459333486317568</a>
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jchonphoenix将近 4 年前
This article mentions Opendoor more than Zillow. Misleading title