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India approves first DNA Covid vaccine

63 点作者 vijayr02将近 4 年前

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aguacate将近 4 年前
My very limited understanding tells me that the human body is a very complex system not fully understood.<p>I only have engineering analogies, but deploying bad software in a complex distributed system can appear fine until latent effects are discovered literally years later (e.g. all data in a specific column for a subset of users was overwritten for records within 6 months in 2008).<p>My understanding with some debilitating, fatal conditions are that the causes are not well known.<p>Fundamentally, it seems that most science is a result of abductive, deductive reasoning etc but ultimately, tinkering and observation i.e. if you don&#x27;t analyse something over 10 years, you don&#x27;t know its effect over 10 years.<p>By using a variety of different vaccines all over the world the expression of humanity is that we are spreading the risk among various vaccine types or contracting COVID itself.<p>So for a mostly self-interested individual in a rural area with a low chance of catching COVID, would it follow that the safest (but maybe selfish) bet is to wait many years?<p>Or is my premise or conclusion flawed, especially because I missing prerequisite knowledge?
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yread将近 4 年前
3 dose, 66% efficient against symptomatic delta variant, injection free, can be kept at 25C for 3 months.Not bad!
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mabbo将近 4 年前
The two big advantages here:<p>&gt; administered with a disposable needle-free injector, which uses a narrow stream of the fluid to penetrate the skin and deliver the jab to the proper tissue.<p>&gt; They can also be stored at higher temperatures - 2 to 8C. Cadila Healthcare claims that their vaccine had shown &quot;good stability&quot; at 25C for at least three months<p>No needles means, ideally, less training needed to administer. This can keep medical staff working hospitals, where they are needed. And high temperature storage means easier handling, less spoilage.<p>Even if efficacy is lower with this vaccine, it&#x27;s still going to save millions of lives of people who don&#x27;t live in wealthy cities.
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DrAwdeOccarim将近 4 年前
This is really cool to see. Just to help people with some context, this vaccine is 2 milligrams per shot (which is equal to 2000 micrograms). I am unsure if they use an adjuvant or not (seems like they don&#x27;t).<p>The reason they need to use so much material is the immune activation doesn&#x27;t line up with spike protein expression and presentation. This is because the plasmid has to be turned into mRNA by the cell that takes it up. By the time the mRNA is being read to make the protein, the initial immune activation by the DNA itself is already waning.<p>The concomitant signalling (immune activation to trick the body to think it&#x27;s an actual infection, and detection of the foriegn spike protein at the time and place) is essential for robust immune response against the target. This is why the mRNA vaccines can use 100 micrograms and 30 micrograms (Moderna and Pfizer&#x2F;BioNTech, respectively)--the innate immune activation caused by the mRNA itself occurs in at the time and space as antigen (spike protein) expression and presentation.<p>I wish them luck with this, but I don&#x27;t believe outside of an emergency this technology will be robust enough compared to mRNA, viral-vector, and traditional vaccines.<p>One more thing, they detect plasmid for a month at the injection site (in non-clinical study) and nearly a month in the blood. That is a concern to me, but not a huge concern. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2021.01.26.428240v1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2021.01.26.428240v1</a>)
guilhas将近 4 年前
It is amazing how experimental treatments keep getting approved. And traditional proven and effective vaccine like Novavax keeps getting pushed behind
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