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Locast’s free TV service shuts down after losing copyright ruling

63 点作者 davidclark22超过 3 年前

7 条评论

jordemort超过 3 年前
This is disappointing. I got the email from them the other day saying they were going to stop interrupting programming to ask for donations, but I guess upon further discussion with their lawyers, they decided that wasn&#x27;t enough to cover them?<p>I wish we had an FCC that was more aggressively on the side of the consumer, that would get much more than just the money they currently get from the broadcasters in exchange for the valuable spectrum that they&#x27;re permitted to occupy.
classichasclass超过 3 年前
The judge&#x27;s summary judgment has an interesting criticism: &quot;Plaintiffs set forth several arguments that defendants&#x27; Locast service does not come within the statutory exemption. For the most part, they present such conflicting characterizations of the facts that they are more suited to trial than a summary disposition.&quot; It seems like the judge did not find most of their statements persuasive, but rather than comment further and based on the 2019 hearing, limited himself to the sole determination that expansion of service was nowhere to be found in 17 USC 111. It would have been interesting to read more about what he didn&#x27;t like about their filings. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;storage.courtlistener.com&#x2F;recap&#x2F;gov.uscourts.nysd.520217&#x2F;gov.uscourts.nysd.520217.322.0.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;storage.courtlistener.com&#x2F;recap&#x2F;gov.uscourts.nysd.52...</a><p>I didn&#x27;t mind the interruptions when I was a free user, and didn&#x27;t mind the $5. Unfortunately, the statute as interpreted seems to mean that unless your non-profit retransmission network exists in its entirety in whole cloth from the beginning, it can&#x27;t be legal. I&#x27;m not sure this was intended either. I think the EFF does have some room to appeal.
commandlinefan超过 3 年前
&gt; The free version of Locast&#x27;s service interrupts programming every 15 minutes &quot;with a fifteen-second video requesting donations,&quot; Stanton noted<p>It doesn&#x27;t seem like they actually needed to shut down. They didn&#x27;t just interrupt the broadcast, the notifications would stop, and then exit out of the app. You could go back into it and watch for another fifteen minutes or so, and then you&#x27;d get another &quot;give us some money or these notifications continue&quot; notification.<p>The judge&#x27;s ruling was that this means of &quot;forcing&quot; of users to &quot;donate&quot; weren&#x27;t voluntary donations at all and that locast was therefore not a non-profit. They could have continued by either actually making the donations truly voluntary or by operating as a for-profit.
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imglorp超过 3 年前
I don&#x27;t understand why broadcasters are not grateful for someone amplifying and relaying their signals, ads and all, for more customers to consume. They routinely pay to physically transmit the same thing over the air. Having eyes on their ads seems to be their actual revenue stream and business metric.
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300bps超过 3 年前
I&#x27;ve been using Locast for about a year - $5.50 per month to get streaming local channels.<p>Now people who generally want to follow the rules will be faced with jailbreaking their firestick or paying exorbitant rates for Cable for channels they have no interest in.
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midwestemo超过 3 年前
Locast wouldn&#x27;t let you watch over 15 mins before interrupting you to donate. Then you would need to exit out and join the channel back. To remove this you had to donate around $5&#x2F;mo AFAIK when I used it last time. So it wasn&#x27;t really &quot;non-profit&quot;
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topherPedersen超过 3 年前
Over the air television and radio broadcasting is an obsolete technology. Not a smart move for this industry to ignore the internet. Locast was doing these networks a favor.