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AlphaGo documentary (2020) [video]

249 点作者 rdli超过 3 年前

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platz超过 3 年前
Michael Redmond&#x27;s Go TV (was U.S. commentator for the official alphago games) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;channel&#x2F;UCRJyagla1B5cxIfR4i2LdgA&#x2F;videos?sort=p" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;channel&#x2F;UCRJyagla1B5cxIfR4i2LdgA&#x2F;vid...</a><p>He has some nice playlists:<p>- how to play go (for beginners) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KTWujSwL2bQ&amp;list=PLW5_cMTm0wvamCNX7qNoUqbXxeHt9n67i" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KTWujSwL2bQ&amp;list=PLW5_cMTm0w...</a><p>- basic openings (joseki) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLW5_cMTm0wvZOTchMWZagFDHuUX0cEk4I" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLW5_cMTm0wvZOTchMWZag...</a><p>- joseki made popular by AlphaGo&#x2F;AIs <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLW5_cMTm0wvZU5pQhmQFwXh-ojU1mQIg3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLW5_cMTm0wvZU5pQhmQFw...</a><p>also of interest, Go Pro Yeonwoo (korean go professional) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;goingceo&#x2F;videos" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;goingceo&#x2F;videos</a>
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CalChris超过 3 年前
I don&#x27;t play go but the AlphaZero chess games are quite beautiful. Agadmator has a description of the weird unhuman like machine continuations, <i>disgusting engine lines</i>. They&#x27;re correct but incomputable by a human and just look weird. AlphaZero had some beautiful lines that looked human but slightly counterintuitive. They were the sort of moves that humans could <i>learn</i> from.<p>Are the AlphaGo games similar?
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yesenadam超过 3 年前
Lee Sedol was rated #4 at the start of 2016, the year the match was played. 3 years later, aged 36,<p>&gt; Lee announced his retirement from professional play, stating that he could never be the top overall player of Go due to the increasing dominance of AI. Lee referred to them as being &quot;an entity that cannot be defeated&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lee_Sedol" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lee_Sedol</a><p>His rating seems to have crashed and burned from soon after the match in 2016 until his retirement in 2019..<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goratings.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;history&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goratings.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;history&#x2F;</a><p>The #1 rated player is now Shin Jin-seo.<p>&gt; In January 2019, Shin was defeated by South Korean Go program HanDol. The program defeated the top five South Korean go players. HanDol has been compared to AlphaGo, but is considered to be weaker.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Shin_Jin-seo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Shin_Jin-seo</a>
bumbledraven超过 3 年前
&quot;7% Documentary: Behind the scenes of Fine Art AI - 纪录片《7%》:揭秘人工智能“绝艺”夺冠幕后 腾讯网 - English subtitles&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;v.qq.com&#x2F;x&#x2F;page&#x2F;r0025m06t5o.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;v.qq.com&#x2F;x&#x2F;page&#x2F;r0025m06t5o.html</a>) is a neat 2018 documentary about Fine Art, a world-class Go AI created by Chinese developers at Tencent. The documentary features extensive commentary by the main programmers, Ma Bo and Tang Shanmin, as well as the project lead Liu Yongsheng.<p>This bit from 4:02 stuck out to me:<p>INTERVIEWER: What level do you think Fine Art has reached?<p>MA BO: About the same level AlphaGo had when playing against Li Shiqi last year.<p>INTERVIEWER: Then wouldn&#x27;t you regard what you do as a redundant work?<p>MA BO: How should I say this? Its like, when China made the atom bomb after America. Was that redundant work?
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Kiro超过 3 年前
Why did the mods change the title and put an incorrect year in it? The movie is from 2017.
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esturk超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m curious to ask what&#x27;s next for this series of AI at Deepmind? Is there other more challenging problems they are tackling at the moment? I read they have already master StarCraft 2 even.<p>Is it the case that they have stopped this series of AI and going all in on protein folding at the moment?
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plasma超过 3 年前
This is a great watch, since then there has been AlphaGo Zero which surpassed the AI you see play Lee, in 3 days.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;deepmind.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;article&#x2F;alphago-zero-starting-scratch" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;deepmind.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;article&#x2F;alphago-zero-starting-scra...</a>
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sillysaurusx超过 3 年前
Highly recommend the Deep Blue documentary too. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HwF229U2ba8&amp;ab_channel=FredrikKnudsen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=HwF229U2ba8&amp;ab_channel=Fredr...</a><p>It&#x27;s easy to forget that none of this was guaranteed to work. Nowadays it feels inevitable that Chess and Go would fall to computers, but in the moment it was quite a different experience.
DantesKite超过 3 年前
It really is a brilliant documentary, even if you have no interest in artificial intelligence or Go.
vavooom超过 3 年前
This documentary really helped me understand and appreciate Go way more. Started my new found love of the game. Wish more people in the US played!
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mypastself超过 3 年前
Thanks for this, an enjoyable documentary I remember seeing on Netflix a few years ago but never getting around to it.<p>I understand it was made with a broader audience than HN in mind, but I wish they extended the runtime to cover the technical aspects in greater depth.<p>As it is, it’s a quality sports movie, although I do find it amusing that in a match between a self-made young man and a cutting-edge piece of technology developed by one of world’s most powerful companies, the latter was initially presented as the underdog.
sytelus超过 3 年前
More recent but not full length: AlphaFold <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gg7WjuFs8F4&amp;t" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gg7WjuFs8F4&amp;t</a>
platz超过 3 年前
feel free to add&#x2F;play me <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;online-go.com&#x2F;player&#x2F;1021081&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;online-go.com&#x2F;player&#x2F;1021081&#x2F;</a> ~8k
29athrowaway超过 3 年前
The best way to learn the rules of the game, as well as basic skills, is an app called badukpop. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;badukpop.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;badukpop.com&#x2F;</a><p>Once you&#x27;ve learned enough you can try playing via OGS, <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;online-go.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;online-go.com</a><p>Don&#x27;t expect to win right away.
manigandham超过 3 年前
One of the best films I&#x27;ve ever seen. Brilliant storytelling about man vs machine at the last frontier of our minds.
dstala超过 3 年前
Narration, BGM - all good. Even someone with absolute no interest in AI will get goosebumps.<p>(Man) vs (Man with Machine)
mNovak超过 3 年前
This film in large part inspired me to start playing Go
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notanog超过 3 年前
Its starwars for AI starters.
bumbledraven超过 3 年前
(2020)
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punnerud超过 3 年前
Collective &gt; individual. Do I need to say more?