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HN Exercise: We're the Hipmunk for X

13 点作者 entrepreneurial将近 14 年前
"We're the hipmunk for X"<p>Replace the X with what you think is the next industry that should have an aggregated price quote engine.

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ezl将近 14 年前
Spas and salons<p>Andrew and I are working on <a href="http://spaciety.com" rel="nofollow">http://spaciety.com</a> (think "Spa + society" for pronunciation) -- I've been calling it the "Expedia/OpenTable for Spas", but same idea.<p>We're at the Brandery in Cincinnati Ohio now trying to blow this up and we've ended up thinking a lot about different verticals that this might apply to.<p>One of the interesting things is that its actually difficult for us to decide what our pitch for Spaciety is.<p>To me (and I think a lot of hackerish types), the core value proposition is 1. "Information transparency and aggregation".<p>What I perceive to be the biggest pain point is the fact that to make a decision about a massage, you need to determine (a) availability, (b) pricing. That information is basically not available online. The SOP is "call 3 spas and ask if they are available at time X".<p>This was the case for plane tickets 10 years ago as well. If I didn't have [hipmunk/$OTHER_FLIGHT_AGGREGATOR] handy, it'd suck. This _IS_ the primary value provided by flight aggregators and the model serves itself well.<p>However, we struggle with it because our customers and market research (read: free online surveys) indicate that users what DISCOUNTS. So the core value proposition perhaps should be: 2. The best prices, not UI or accessibility (what I believe hipmunk and expedia/travelocity sell).<p>Unfortunately this is a metric we can't really compete on because of the market structure.<p>Hipmunk doesn't have to answer to this because the flight market isn't as fragmented as $OTHER_SMALL_BUSINESSES so they don't try to fight the PRICE fight with Groupon, LivingSocial, even Amazon and Yelp offering at LEAST one Spa service a day at 50% off. While we could negotiate for insane discounts, spas we work with (over 100 now) basically HATE these coupon sites because they get blown out with zero profit appointments for the next month and dont get return customers. Repeat dealsite vendors in the spa industry are a rarity for exactly this reason. However, there are over almost 2000 spas and salons in Chicago, so group buying sites can just burn one at a time, continue to offer a new cheap deal every week, and consumers whose primary decision criteria is price will never need an aggregator.<p>So all the while, we've been thinking we're selling convenience and information transparency and we're basically just making customers "almost really happy" on this other hugely important value criteria.<p>This has made our niche really small: Since its clear that only a minority of consumers care about UI, transparency, convenience and -- and we can't compete on absolute price alone with dealsites, our value proposition is a qualified: 1. We can give you the best price today (if you buy a LS deal today you probably can't use it immediately) 2. We can give you the best price near your house (we offer discounts at all our spas and have wide coverage, but dealsites offer 1 a day)<p>So we don't win entirely on price, but we can win on "Agony" (to borrow from the hipmunk guys), which is basically the right combination of price and time/position convenience.<p>Basically my long winded way of saying "I think you need to have an industry with very little price competition in order for the aggregator component to be a huge selling point."
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entrepreneurial将近 14 年前
I think what this subject is really interesting because people are always looking and needing to buy things. So, making a marketplace for businesses is very interesting when the marketplace says "We're going to give you an unlimited amount of leads for this monthly fee". Those leads could be worth $1 mill for the LTV (Life Time Value) of that customer you attained.<p>From the consumer's side - we're already seeing it through the group buying sites (groupon, living social), but now we're looking for the "Niche" sites that do the same thing. I believe there is a big market for this and its already proven.<p>About a year ago, I thought there could be a site with these features using the twitter/facebook api for leads. Something like SocialLeads.com - name your price and have people fight for your business by outbidding each other. Like google does, but for niche markets and in reverse - for social.<p>Contact me if you want to dialogue about this...
maxdemarzi将近 14 年前
We're the Hipmunk for Used Cars<p>We're the Hipmunk for Real Estate<p>We're the Hipmunk for Vacation/Tour Packages<p>We're the Hipmunk for Technical Books<p>We're the Hipmunk for Matchmaking/Dating<p>I think the Matchmaking/Dating one could be sorted by Agony. (Most likely to respond to your witty message).<p>We're the Hipmunk for Drink Specials (weekly view)<p>You can see which bars have specials which day/time and optimize a schedule to refrain from being sober all week.<p>Or you could optimize for Live Bands, themes, ladies night, etc.
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kayhi将近 14 年前
We're the Hipmunk of research chemicals (<a href="http://store.p212121.com" rel="nofollow">http://store.p212121.com</a>).<p>As a side, at what point is a site popular enough to be 'the Y of X'. I suspect Hipmunk conveys more here than the dental office. I've been going with an amazon analogy - what amazon does to books, we do to research chemicals.
travisfischer将近 14 年前
"We're the Hipmunk for apartment rentals" sounds amazing to me but all of the little hidden details that a property owner won't list might make this less effective than Hipmunk where you know what you are getting with each airline.
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lachyg将近 14 年前
We're the Hipmunk for Gift Cards (had a TC article written on us!) <a href="http://cardnap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://cardnap.com/</a> -- Facing some technical difficulty at the moment, hopefully will be fixed by tomorrow.
ethank将近 14 年前
We're the heuristic algorithms mixed with good user experience as applied to a market filled with endemic, institutionalized and non-innovative players.
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yolesaber将近 14 年前
College tuition + majors? CollegeBoard does this to a degree but I despise their layout and sometimes the tuition prices are inaccurate.
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hoodoof将近 14 年前
We're the Hipmunk for "Low orbit launch vehicles."
cicatrix_manet将近 14 年前
We're the Hipmunk for all the other Hipmunks.
entrepreneurial将近 14 年前
This is in a response to <a href="http://www.leaky.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leaky.com/</a> just launching
bigohms将近 14 年前
We're the hipmunk for hipmunk sites
grep将近 14 年前
The costs of advertising a service like "Hipmunk for X" are tremendous.
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benologist将近 14 年前
Group buying sites.
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whichdan将近 14 年前
Hosting / Domains
helwr将近 14 年前
Bitcoins
suking将近 14 年前
Prostitutes!