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Luxury Linux Smartphones

65 点作者 cunidev超过 3 年前

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undecisive超过 3 年前
It seems a glaring omission not to mention the Astro Slide [1] which I seriously hope will be shipping in the next month, or even the F(x)tec range of phones[2]. The former has options for linux or dual boot with android, comes with a slide-out physical keyboard. Not top of the line processor, but not far off. Not the most stylish design (if that&#x27;s even possible with a slide-out keyboard) but not far off. And definitely not a &quot;luxury&quot; pricetag.<p>It&#x27;s good that these devices are starting to appear - it&#x27;s a shame that many of them are either so niche that they can justify the markup, or likely to require a large amount of skill to perform and manage the linux install.<p>One day, we might meet in the middle.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiegogo.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;astro-slide-5g-transformer&#x2F;x&#x2F;23358057#&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiegogo.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;astro-slide-5g-transforme...</a> [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fxtec.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fxtec.com</a>
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motohagiography超过 3 年前
The AN0M phone created by the FBI was probably the most successful luxury phone we will ever see, where people paid thousands of dollars for them, and used them both practically and as a status symbol for their unique lifestyle use cases. They disinhibited themselves on the AN0M platform because it gave them a sense of freedom, safety, exclusivity, and privilege - everything a luxury product aspires to do. XOR or even Apple could learn a thing or two from them.<p>But I&#x27;d also argue security features are what you need when you don&#x27;t have power, because you in effect psychologically inferiorize yourself to both your threat model and your security provider, so that&#x27;s why apple plays down their security narrative in their luxury brand as well. Security as a feature makes most experiences kind of lame in anything it touches, so I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a very sound basis for a luxury product.
smitty1e超过 3 年前
&gt; But on a more technical side, most of those minor projects offer, unlike Android, very little (if any) sandboxing of apps by default, which, alongside the fact that less-known, custom-made apps are quite likely to be vulnerable, the security factor is moved to a lower layer (i.e., requiring very platform-specific exploits) rather than solved.<p>This seems a reasonable, but broad and unsubstantiated claim.
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filmgirlcw超过 3 年前
&gt; Or maybe Linux is becoming, more than ever, a convenient brand to put on any piece of technology that aims at being secure, or simply at escaping the norm, rather than something companies should not only adopt and modify for profit, but also contribute to.<p>This might be true of Purism, but for XOR stuff, I don’t think Linux has anything to do with it except that it is there. Recall that XOR&#x27;s lineage traces back to Vertu, a onetime Nokia subsidiary that used to sell $50,000 Symbian phones (and later equally overpriced and outdated Android phones) that then went through an assortment of owners and ultimately went bankrupt after a bunch of fraud [1]. To me, it seems much more likely XOR is just trying to continue the grift of selling “luxury” to sheikhs or other people with endless amounts of money, but without having to either deal with the Google licensing requirements for Android or the hassle of doing AOSP. Linux is what XOR uses because that’s what is available, but it isn’t part of the branding or the identity of the phone.<p>As for Purism, aside from price, I wouldn’t call a phone that doesn’t support MMS or group SMS messages and is running hardware that was obsolete in 2019 when the specs were finalized, let alone now, “luxury.” Purism is certainly going after a very specific audience of users willing to pay extraordinary amounts of money for alpha-quality hardware&#x2F;software (this isn’t a slight at the difficulty of what Purism is trying to achieve, but facts are facts), not to mention waiting months&#x2F;years to get their devices to begin with, but I don’t know if that is luxury as much as it is incredibly, incredibly niche. That said, Purism certainly leans hard into the Linux branding, even if it isn’t able to deliver what it is promising.<p>My personal favorite “luxury” Linux phone (although it was Android-based) was the Blackphone, the super expensive, “super secure” phone that turned out to not be so secure after all [2]. Or maybe the not Linux but QNX-based Porsche Design BlackBerry P&#x27;9982, which was a $2400 BlackBerry 10 phone that was identical to regular Z10 in specs, but had a better chassis and a nice leather pouch (certainly worth the 4x premium, right?) [3].<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gizmodo.com&#x2F;ridiculous-rich-person-phone-brand-vertu-somehow-contin-1793227868" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gizmodo.com&#x2F;ridiculous-rich-person-phone-brand-vertu...</a> [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blackphone" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blackphone</a> [3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2013-11-19-blackberry-porsche-p9982-hands-on.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.engadget.com&#x2F;2013-11-19-blackberry-porsche-p9982...</a>
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tinus_hn超过 3 年前
Well, let’s see if the people clamoring for real keyboards are going to put their money where their mouth is. Perhaps this phone also has the prized 3.5mm jack!
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Apocryphon超过 3 年前
Do Sailfish phones count as Linux?
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HelixEndeavor超过 3 年前
&quot;Luxury&quot; is definitely the way to describe it.<p>I&#x27;ve had people recommend me Linux phones again and again in tech circles. Not only are they absurdly out of my price range (I paid $150 for my current phone, used), they are incredibly underpowered, buggy, and the software just... Isn&#x27;t. There is no software for them.<p>A Linux phone simply cannot serve as a replacement for an Android or iPhone in the current market. They just cannot do the things most people need from their phones. They&#x27;re something for Linux fans to cream themselves over and tinker with, but I&#x27;ll bet you won&#x27;t see any of the people who recommend these phones ever actually using them.
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Artlav超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m kinda surprised they go for privacy aspects and customizability.<p>Android is Linux enough for most use cases, and the big problem is just having root access to it and an ability to customize.<p>A pure linux phone would just be a pointless annoyance, at least until someone makes a phone with external thermal interface.
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