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California makes zero-emission autonomous vehicles mandatory by 2030

44 点作者 turtlegrids超过 3 年前

11 条评论

supernova87a超过 3 年前
Here is a different question I am curious about.<p>How do we manage the constantly growing number of laws that have to be passed to manage a state and all the issues that come up?<p>At some point, you might think that there needs to be a simpler set of higher level principles, but not quite so general as the constitution, to manage what must be tens of thousands of laws. i.e. to say that if the laws follow this set of principles, then their interpretation is clear.<p>Because as far as I know, our courts are being swamped with cases and under water, every law that&#x27;s passed opens up a new area of challenge for lawyers to learn&#x2F;assist&#x2F;profit from, depending on your perspective, and for people to have to keep track of or somehow find out about.<p>Is it just a fact of modern life that the more new things we encounter as a society, the more laws we need?<p>Does anyone else perceive that the growing body of law will at some point become a problem?
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jmnicolas超过 3 年前
I think the title is misleading. The way I understand the article is that in 2030 if your vehicle is autonomous then it has to be 0 emission but I don&#x27;t think it implies that all vehicles must be autonomous.
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melling超过 3 年前
How many &quot;autonomous vehicles&quot; will there be by 2030?<p>DARPA Grand Challenge was won by Stanford in 2005.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;DARPA_Grand_Challenge" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;DARPA_Grand_Challenge</a><p>Google started self-driving in 2009.<p>Maybe we should make this an easier problem to solve?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gordian_Knot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gordian_Knot</a>
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proc0超过 3 年前
How can they predict the future so far in advanced? I don&#x27;t mean what process they took, I mean it&#x27;s a decade away, and I don&#x27;t care who you are, you cannot predict the future. We could have some catastrophe, or major event of some kind, not to mention the required technologies never reaching maturity, and this will be a useless waste of time.
roflchoppa超过 3 年前
I don’t think Californias power grid is ready to handle the demands for a massive increase in electronic vehicles on the grid. These timelines are great on paper and for getting votes by progressives, but the infra can’t handle it.
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GDC7超过 3 年前
With all due respect this is madness.<p>If by some hail mary miracle we manage to get Level 5 or even advanced Level 4 that should be the priority for the automotive industry, not electrification.<p>Government should throw money at the problem, because once you remove car crashes we basically won&#x27;t die violently anymore...at least in the West.<p>Call me selfish but I am much more concerned for my safety and the safety of my family members and in general the safety of my contemporaries compared to those who&#x27;d inhabit the planet 200 years from now who&#x27;d face the effect of Global Warming.<p>Also as Bill Gates eloquently described in his book &quot;How to avoid a Climate disaster&quot; electric cars , should they come alone are basically the low hanging fruit vanity project.<p>We need solutions for steel, cement, farming etc.
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chapium超过 3 年前
California desperately needs to reduce the amount of free parking and encourage non-car modes of travel.
PenguinCoder超过 3 年前
Never going to happen in that timeframe.
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voz_超过 3 年前
Very surprising how many anti-green comments there are here. What do solutions for a cleaner, greener world look like, if not ones that include steps like these?
jeffbee超过 3 年前
California loves to pass superficial regulations that won&#x27;t change anything. Whatever looks good on paper and doesn&#x27;t actually impact anyone is great for us.<p>Things that could actually reduce GHG emissions like completing the high-speed rail project, taxing fuels, fossil fuel severance taxes, enforceable bus lanes, walkable urban development happen slowly or not at all.
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gghlp11超过 3 年前
&quot;Autonomous&quot; is really a misnomer for driverless cars, especially when they are electric. They all track your location and a bunch of other things.<p>If electric, you are dependent on a centralized grid operator. It&#x27;s easy for a totalitarian government to halt all electric cars.<p>Electric vehicles, while nice, are another step towards centralization. Another loss of freedom and real autonomy.
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