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Choosing the Right Wall Anchors

343 点作者 turtlegrids超过 3 年前

30 条评论

aikinai超过 3 年前
This is missing staples! I&#x27;m not sure if there&#x27;s anything similar available in other countries, but I swear by this staple-based wall-mount product sold in Japan[0].<p>Right now I have a 55&quot; TV wall-mounted with nothing but staples.<p>[0]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kabebijin.net&#x2F;products&#x2F;detail.php?product_id=122" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kabebijin.net&#x2F;products&#x2F;detail.php?product_id=122</a>
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mattlondon超过 3 年前
Not all plugs are created equal.<p>I&#x27;ve found loads are total garbage. The only brand I have found that reliably works into brick and plaster are Fischer plugs. If I buy something that already comes with plugs, they go <i>straight into the bin</i> and I use my own screws and matching plugs.<p>Fischer has a lot of technical information freely and publicly available on their website for their screws too (e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fiproductmedia.azureedge.net&#x2F;media&#x2F;Certification%20Documents&#x2F;DOP%20Documents&#x2F;fischer&#x2F;ZD_DOP_POWER-FAST-II-1_F_SEN_AIP_V1.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fiproductmedia.azureedge.net&#x2F;media&#x2F;Certification%20D...</a>). This is pleasing when you are mounting something that needs to take a lot of weight (shelves, large mirrors etc) and you want piece of mind.<p>Highly recommended - I&#x27;ve basically chucked everything else out and now have 3 different sized Fischer plugs and a variety of matching screws (pan head, counter sunk etc) to meet all my needs.<p>I am not a pro - just a DIYer who has had multiple failures in the past from cheap-ass plugs and screws who initially blamed themselves. Turns out you CAN blame the tools (well - fixings in this case) since quality fixings solved my problems.
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oaiey超过 3 年前
Funny how concrete walls are just a last chapter low content part. Most of us Europeans fight very hard battles against concrete walls and using the right anchor is quite a thing.
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Stratoscope超过 3 年前
Very interesting article, I learned a lot from it.<p>No mention of Command Strips; I was curious to see if the author had any opinion on them. I&#x27;ve used them with some success in the past when I didn&#x27;t want to put a hole in a wall.<p>Anyone have any knowledge of their pros and cons? One &quot;con&quot; I know of is just a matter of technique: when you remove one, don&#x27;t pull it away from the wall! Pull it straight down against the wall, slowly.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;command.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;command.com&#x2F;</a><p>If nothing else, DOS old-timers will get a kick out of that domain name!
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par超过 3 年前
Something I am not sure was mentioned here was dynamic loads. You could secure a bicycle mount to your wall using one of the aforementioned anchors, however the repetitiveness of bring the bike on and off the mount will cause the drywall to fail, and it will come crashing down at some point. Anchors are good for static loads. For dynamic loads, you will still need to find a stud. This is made even more complicated these days with the introduction of metal studs in so many buildings. At that point, a molly or toggle bolt into a metal stud is going to be your best bet.
diziet超过 3 年前
Also relevant from the amazing Project Farm youtube tester:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=lHb-Tcvkn7M" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=lHb-Tcvkn7M</a>
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seized超过 3 年前
GripIt anchors are very good as well, they didn&#x27;t review those. They are a bit tricky to install if the drywall is thicker or you end up near a stud. Bit they feel sturdy once installed. I&#x27;ve used them for dressers, free standing shelves, etc when a stud didn&#x27;t line up.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gripitfixings.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gripitfixings.com&#x2F;</a>
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asdfasgasdgasdg超过 3 年前
Interesting to see the correct advice here for hanging stuff from metal studs. So much of the advice on the internet about this suggests using toggle bolts, but it&#x27;s actually fine to just use sheetmetal screws directly into sheetmetal studs. You can find datasheets online about how much weight each screw will hold into a given thickness of steel, but it&#x27;s often surprisingly high -- more than 150lb for even fairly small screws into 25ga steel. For example:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amsisupply.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2016&#x2F;09&#x2F;ASO-1-Data-Sheet.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amsisupply.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2016&#x2F;09&#x2F;ASO-1-...</a>
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throwawaysea超过 3 年前
There’s a great YouTube channel called “Project Farm” where this person performs systematic reviews of products in a given category, usually relating to home improvement. Here’s his video on drywall anchors: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lHb-Tcvkn7M" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lHb-Tcvkn7M</a>
devwastaken超过 3 年前
Heavily recommend always supporting with studs. Just a simple 1&quot; (actually 3&#x2F;4&quot;) thick board between the studs will be far more supportive than drywall.<p>Also don&#x27;t use drywall screws for anything other than drywall. Use torx screws when putting wood to wood&#x2F;studs.
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user3939382超过 3 年前
Here’s a great video on the same subject if you’re interested. This guy’s data-driven approach to these types of tests is awesome: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lHb-Tcvkn7M" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lHb-Tcvkn7M</a>
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janandonly超过 3 年前
Two things to add:<p>1. There is a pdf, which you can download here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.finewoodworking.com&#x2F;membership&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;405146&#x2F;W291_Choosing-the-right-wall-anchors.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.finewoodworking.com&#x2F;membership&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;405146&#x2F;W291_C...</a><p>2. While reading this I wondered why we don&#x27;t have specialized quality magazines like this in Europe? I guess that America only has two big languages (Spanish and English) whereas Europa has many. So writing any article for a wide public is impossible without an army of transistors
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locallost超过 3 年前
Like others, I also thought it was funny this guide is almost completely for drywall or in general not for concrete&#x2F;brick type walls. Says something about the differences in house building in the US vs rest of the world. I now live in an apartment with drywall for the first time in my life, after about 15 other places.<p>The one thing I noticed is that those self drilling anchors are rated for a much higher weight than those that I use. In the article they are 50+ lbs and over here 8kg, so around 15 lbs. Don&#x27;t know if there&#x27;s a detail I&#x27;m missing.
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jmchuster超过 3 年前
I find video is the easiest for eyeballing how well they actually hold up.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;QQWIZNlf9ZE?t=480" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;QQWIZNlf9ZE?t=480</a><p>There&#x27;s also an aspect of how straightforward or finicky they are. So some designs have high risk of user error, so for the average homeowner, they end up on average with worse outcomes.
hoseja超过 3 年前
(for dry&quot;wall&quot;) Also, the correct answer is this:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fischer-international.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;products&#x2F;standard-fixings&#x2F;plastic-fixings&#x2F;universal-plug-ux" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fischer-international.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;products&#x2F;standard-f...</a>
Cthulhu_超过 3 年前
I had hollow &#x2F; drywall walls in my old house (it was an older house that had an extra layer built inwards, if that makes any sense), and figuring out what to use was a bit of a pain. But, I managed to hang up some pretty heavy stuff on there.<p>The one thing was a kitchen cabinet with a fold-out door that would carry all my plates and the like - 30+ kilos? Up to 50? And since it&#x27;s ikea stuff, it only needed two screws at the top!<p>I tried plugs that look like the self-drilling anchors described in the article, they ended up taking out a big chunk of the wall, whoops. We settled on the plastic butterfly anchors (number 1 on the picture), which held up just fine - but I did live in constant fear that the wall would give in.
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typhonic超过 3 年前
This is my favorite. It&#x27;s hard to find, so I made a quick sketch.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drive.google.com&#x2F;file&#x2F;d&#x2F;1hSCB8ZGGH7tlph-NuNRWa317HCV4DJe7&#x2F;view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drive.google.com&#x2F;file&#x2F;d&#x2F;1hSCB8ZGGH7tlph-NuNRWa317HCV...</a><p>I turn it so the flat side is horizontal. It expands when you put the screw in and it holds quite a bit. You just push it in by hand. When your done, it will pull out and leave just a small(ish) slot. Like I said, they are hard to find, so I take them when I move and re-use them.
samizdis超过 3 年前
Love the thoroughness of that piece, and the site in general takes me back to watching episodes on TV of <i>The New Yankee Workshop</i> [1] with Norm Abram [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_New_Yankee_Workshop" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_New_Yankee_Workshop</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Norm_Abram" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Norm_Abram</a>
bcrosby95超过 3 年前
&gt; When I need to secure larger cabinets or other wooden pieces to a drywall or plaster wall and there is no stud accessible, toggle bolts are the anchors I most often turn to.<p>Or if you have young children. My 3 year olds can literally swing on our towel racks and they won&#x27;t come out the wall. I&#x27;ve since converted everything in our house to these because things kept getting pulled out by them.
trdtaylor1超过 3 年前
No mention of Gorilla Hooks, my favorite method of attaching anything to the wall up to 50 lbs.<p>Basically you drive a curved piece of metal through the wall, as you drive it in it curves up to impact the drywall above your insertion point, and it has a hook on the end.<p>It works so much easier then any of the stupid anchors, and I haven&#x27;t had one fail over 15 years of using them for everything.
harvie超过 3 年前
This is my choice usualy:<p>==== Light duty ====<p>- Just screw to drywall (no anchor)<p>- cheap hammer-in anchor for concrete and hollow bricks (cheap plastic anchor and special screw with &quot;one-way thread&quot; that can be quickly hammered in like nail, but still can be tightened and&#x2F;or (un)screwed like normal screw if needed)<p>==== Heavy duty ====<p>- Expanding bolts for concrete<p>- Molly bolts for drywall<p>==== Super heavy duty ====<p>- Chemical anchor in concrete or bricks
dangerboysteve超过 3 年前
I&#x27;ve used the Toggler Snaptoggle many times to mount large televisions 75-80 inches and they were fantastic.
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teekert超过 3 年前
This is very useful, wish I would have had it before I did a major reconstruction. That said, after 1-2 weeks of working with wood, concrete and bricks, you know exactly what you need and develop a feel for it very quickly. Initially just ask at the construction store, and just start.
jessaustin超过 3 年前
They&#x27;re kind of fiddly to install, but when an inspector demanded additional handicap grab bars for which we hadn&#x27;t installed blocking, I had good luck with a product called &quot;WingIts&quot;. As in, after I installed the grab bar, I could lift my fat ass up with it.
dkdbejwi383超过 3 年前
I’ve used Geefix for installing floating cabinets in the bathroom, which weren’t mentioned in the article. They claim to hold a lot of weight: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.geefix.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.geefix.com&#x2F;</a>
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99_00超过 3 年前
Stupid question: Assume I have anchors rated at 20lbs. I put up a shelf using 4 anchors. The shelf weighs 10lbs. Should I assume that the shelf can hold 70lbs of evenly distributed weight?
bch超过 3 年前
Ugh - I’m living this right now trying to figure out the best (or “a good”) way to hang new interior doors into so-called steel studs, which are actually just box-section aluminum.
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baremetal超过 3 年前
there is no substitute for hitting a stud. drywall anchors for holding up cabinets is blasphemy!<p>try french cleats screwed into studs instead.
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ryanmarsh超过 3 年前
So glad they mentioned the Cobra Driller Toggle. These have saved me much frustration. I wish I’d discovered them sooner.
jimbobimbo超过 3 年前
Just in time! Doing remodeling and attaching things to walls is a big deal.