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The high-frequency trading arms race: frequent batch auctions (2015)

138 点作者 philips4350超过 3 年前

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hcarlens超过 3 年前
This type of order book is actually quite common in Europe now! It provides an interesting alternative to central limit order books and dark pools.<p>Around the introduction of MiFID II regulation in 2018, several exchange operators added these frequent auction books.<p>Cboe&#x27;s period auctions book is the biggest of these by volume: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cboe.com&#x2F;europe&#x2F;equities&#x2F;trading&#x2F;periodic_auctions_book&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cboe.com&#x2F;europe&#x2F;equities&#x2F;trading&#x2F;periodic_auctio...</a><p>In addition to Cboe, Turquoise, Goldman Sachs, UBS, Virtu and Aquis also run frequent batch auction venues: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cboe.com&#x2F;europe&#x2F;equities&#x2F;market_share&#x2F;market&#x2F;venue&#x2F;2021-10-16&#x2F;#ct=02vrCC&amp;sc=03NrCC&amp;dm=tbpcan&amp;dr=5day&amp;mt=1&amp;ms=0&amp;hc=1&amp;f=0&amp;ID=8d4b5bedc69239a55eb4&amp;V=33bd3ce3c54b531565bd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cboe.com&#x2F;europe&#x2F;equities&#x2F;market_share&#x2F;market&#x2F;ven...</a><p>I actually co-wrote a paper about this at the time, and it&#x27;s very rare I get a chance to talk more about it! <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jot.pm-research.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;13&#x2F;3&#x2F;5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jot.pm-research.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;13&#x2F;3&#x2F;5</a> (sadly it&#x27;s paywalled)
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kamaitachi超过 3 年前
I was working in HFT as a dev team lead around the time of this article (2105).<p>I remember this was being seriously considered by one of our target exchanges (can&#x27;t remember if it was Eurex or Globex).<p>Our main HFT trader didn&#x27;t seem worried - he said that the race would just change from a race to pick off an opportunity into a race to align with any auction timeframe.<p>Back then, our strategies were implemented in FGPA so our response to events could be timed very accurately. Even randomly-timed rolling auctions wouldn&#x27;t have posed any challenges.<p>Probably explains why this idea never ended up being implemented by any of the major exchanges.
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twic超过 3 年前
If you&#x27;re a market maker, you really, really want to be able to do low-latency trading in order to hedge fills before the market moves against you. If market makers can&#x27;t do this, they will make worse markets - show less size and wider prices, or just get out of the game. How do you do this under continuous batch auctions?<p>I have an underdeveloped idea that what we really need is limit order types with built-in hedging. &quot;Bid to buy 100 gizmos at 30c each, and for every five gizmos bought, immediately offer to sell 1 widget at $1.20; cancel this order if the best offer for widgets moves below that price&quot; sort of thing. Basically, you&#x27;re moving the simple reasoning that has to be executed at low latency from the market maker&#x27;s FPGA to the exchange&#x27;s matching engine.<p>Sometimes, you can do this by putting orders in spreads, but only where a spread exists (or can be defined) for the two legs you care about, in the right ratio.<p>You might also want to do more complicated things, like pulling an order in one product if another product moves a lot, because you think that presages a move in the product you&#x27;re quoting.<p>The idea would be, firstly, to make it much easier to make markets without having to invest in low-latency infrastructure, broadening the base of participants who can do it, and secondly, to reduce the negative impact of speed-blunting interventions like continuous batch auctions or speed bumps.
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carterschonwald超过 3 年前
While I was at jpmorgan I actually spent some time thinking about alternative auction structures (vs the order book model). The current trading model is ultimately a mechanization of the rules from trading happened in a literal trading floor room, and a lot of the structural issues stem from those rules treating time as infinite resolution and the speed of information propagation&#x2F;light being instaneous.<p>There’s some interesting details about how large trades are done today that could perhaps be better reflected into some element of auction design.
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bob1029超过 3 年前
There are severe technological consequences for pushing for synthetic discrete time. Exchanges that currently execute in a serialized fashion may no longer be able to support the trading volume if the underlying platform is unable to develop batch sizes that naturally align with hardware capabilities and timings.<p>Put differently, I think what is going to happen is you will start stacking way more orders at each interval than you can process before the next because the wonderful CPU pipelining effects get wrecked each time you hit an arbitrary time slice boundary. I suppose you could intentionally spin the CPU instead of yielding back to the OS during these delays, but that means you are not able to process any orders that are <i>currently</i> arriving, so your tail ends up growing longer and longer.
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akvadrako超过 3 年前
Is there any mathematical proof that it&#x27;s harder to game batch auctions than what we have now?<p>For example, while other markets and the real world moves on, you gain info. So the later in the batch you can submit a trade, the greater your advantage.
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lpage超过 3 年前
Budish et al. start with the statement that &quot;The high-frequency trading arms race is a symptom of flawed market design&quot; and present a mechanism that mostly addresses a specific feature of the current market structure. In 2021, most folks on all sides of the table (liquidity providers, executing brokers, financial institutions) agree that the arms race is individually and collectively value-destroying. They don&#x27;t claim that it&#x27;s the &quot;best mechanism&quot; for capital markets. And every mechanism is a set of tradeoffs, so no one should ever really make that claim. At OneChronos (YC S16) [1], we view the arms race as something that&#x27;s very much worth solving for, but a tiny piece of a much bigger opportunity to make markets function better for all players.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.onechronos.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.onechronos.com</a>
tails4e超过 3 年前
HFT seems like it should be illegal. The &#x27;idea&#x27; of the markets is that its fair access to all, at least in theory. I understand there is always assymetry, but things like insider knowledge has been made illegal to try keep the fairness (or at least attempt). HFT does what no ordinary person can, its an unfair advantage. So should it not be banned? I recall there was a company setting up a market with a minimum latency, ensured by all trades going through a spool of miles of fibre optic cable in their office. The idea was to prevent HFT at source, which was cool, but a shame wider markets just let HFT slide, and the fairness assymetry widen.
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robocat超过 3 年前
I thought part of the problem is that exchanges charge more for faster access (e.g. physical collocation), so the exchanges profitability depends in part on creating a bidding war between HFT companies?
dang超过 3 年前
One small past thread:<p><i>The High-Frequency Trading Arms Race: Frequent Batch Auctions as a Solution [pdf]</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20003222" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20003222</a> - May 2019 (4 comments)
secondcoming超过 3 年前
The ad-tech world worked on a Vickery Auction for quite some time. I&#x27;ve often wondered what things would look like if the financial world worked that way instead.<p>(Vickery Auctions are pretty much dead now because websites saw that bidders were bidding $X and automatically assumed that because they weren&#x27;t getting $X, but rather $(X - Y), they were being ripped off)
chaps超过 3 年前
Maybe someone can explain how it would work, but wouldn&#x27;t this need a wide price spread to cover risk?
elzbardico超过 3 年前
What is the benefit for society of allowing HFT? This is what we should be asking ourselves.
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harryh超过 3 年前
Probably worth appending 2015 to the title on HN.
joshu超过 3 年前
alternatively you could have one or more specific crossings once a day and be done with the whole problem.