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Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

282 点作者 clydethefrog超过 3 年前

25 条评论

streamofdigits超过 3 年前
Regulatory arbitrage of some sort seems to be involved in many recent digital business models. Whether it concerns or involves (lack of) data privacy regulation, &quot;reinventing&quot; labour contracts or undercutting taxation frameworks, it is a most cruel reminder of how poor the management of the commons.<p>While many of the efficiencies and attractions of re-inventing various businesses for the &quot;digital age&quot; seem genuine, their deployment within a fog of regulatory risk seems like a lose-lose proposition for anybody but the most short-term minded.
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nikanj超过 3 年前
So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.
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Taylor_OD超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m a power user of Airbnb. I have never disliked a service as much that I pay continue to pay for other than LinkedIn. Both of these are because I have&#x2F;had little choice. What it all comes down to is getting a shitting experience and paying a premium for it.<p>I have a 30+ day stay that had been booked close to 6 months in advanced canceled 7 days before my stay because the user sold their house. Airbnb said they would help me find a new comparable place. What they meant was they would send me a $200 gift card and say tough shit that all the comparable houses are booked already.<p>I hope they get regulated hard. Maybe someday they will start giving a shit about their users too.
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debarshri超过 3 年前
It was really weird walking in Amsterdam during summer this time around. Generally for past few year, I had seen explosions of tourists doing a weekend tours. There used to be barely any foot space to walk near dam square and shopping streets. This time I just was able to be make an appoint for Anne Frank museum a day before and simply walk in without a queue. This is the conundrum of tourism. If you too much tourist in the city then if feels like a Disney land, if there too little then there is no business. I wouldn&#x27;t just blame Airbnb for the tourist explosion but in general there are lot of cheaper hotels, hostels which attract not so nice tourists. This summer was great for me but not that good for the local businesses. Balancing this ecosystem is I think pretty hard. One of the things i was thinking how you could solve would be purpose make navigating throughout the city difficult. That forces people to stay longer, therefore limits people who come for short haul.
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airza超过 3 年前
It says advertisements in the article, but maybe a more clear term is &#x27;listing&#x27;?
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srmarm超过 3 年前
Airbnb was amazing to start with, I stayed with some many interesting people and in interesting places. It&#x27;s a shame that it&#x27;s now so commoditised.
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qwerty456127超过 3 年前
AirBnB and everything around it has mutated into something big and ugly since where it began. Seems like we need good old couch surfing forums back.
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sAbakumoff超过 3 年前
Amsterdam is trying hard to fight against tourism. They even plan to move the red light district and possibly demand dutch ID in coffeeshops. Nice to see that. 20M tourists per year for 1.2M city is too much.
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elzbardico超过 3 年前
Airbnb is great when traveling, but it made things more difficult for renters in cities with even a slightly moderate amount of tourism. Better houses with amenities like pools are almost completely out of the long-term rental market, or have insane prices. For the professional urban renter this just means a less fancy rental, but this less fancy rental now is out of the reach for lower income people.
difosfor超过 3 年前
Good riddance
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Reason077超过 3 年前
Someone needs to remove 80% of advertisements from &quot;ruetir.com&quot;. Personally I don&#x27;t mind a reasonable level of advertising on the web, but that site has gone way overboard. Looks like some kind of spam&#x2F;scam site.
btbuildem超过 3 年前
Booking.com is where the most desperate landlords and the real scumbags post. It&#x27;s a cesspool. No wonder it&#x27;s the only one where number of listings has increased given the circumstances.
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datavirtue超过 3 年前
These companies are going to screw themselves by not policing the behavior of landlords. The government will do it for them, as evidenced by this move. I know VRBO does nothing to protect renters (unless they get raped&#x2F;assaulted and need to head off bad PR). There needs to be transparency about who owns and is ultimately responsible for the property. VRBO currently insulates owners&#x2F;operators from accountability to renters. I got ripped off for $2100 and had no recourse from VRBO. No way to file a complaint and it was clear once I went looking for support that it was 100% focused on helping owners&#x2F;operators use their platform.<p>The current requirement to assure that a renter doesn&#x27;t get ripped off is to use a credit card that will refund their money in the event the owner tries to rip them off. Good luck to the un-banked and working poor.
RNCTX超过 3 年前
I&#x27;ve often thought that municipal regulations would be the best way to get rid of unsavory American corporations.<p>Another one that I&#x27;m not surprised has happened yet is a ~$5,000 dollar per day fine for an unattended cash register. That would get rid of CVS and Walgreens overnight.
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saddlerustle超过 3 年前
If I were a western city, I would simply build enough housing for residents <i>and</i> visitors.
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andybak超过 3 年前
&quot;Advertisement&quot; = &quot;Property&quot; if I&#x27;m reading this correctly. Seems a fairly ambiguous way to word it.
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quotemstr超过 3 年前
It&#x27;s really sad how throughout the western world governments have come to rely on big tech monopolies to act as their enforcers instead of just enforcing the law using the normal machinery of the state.<p>Once the state becomes addicted to enforcement via big tech, it becomes reluctant to break up those big tech companies and promote competition.
mxstbr超过 3 年前
I&#x27;d be surprised if a large % of those that no longer rent out on Airbnb can just leave their properties empty. I wonder whether those properties have shifted to other short-term rental platforms or whether they&#x27;ve gone back into long-term renting and what impact that the latter (would) have on the local rental market...
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cletus超过 3 年前
You see a lot of millenials in particular complain about how they&#x27;re basically screwed, financially. Houses are unaffordable, they have a mountain of debt, etc. Probably the only reason you don&#x27;t hear this so much from Gen-Z yet is they&#x27;re either too young or just in shock and denial about their position.<p>I&#x27;m truly sympathetic. I compare how I could live post-university and it&#x27;s just not achievable now.<p>Here&#x27;s the rub: if you support the view that housing is too expensive and people can&#x27;t find places to live then you should be absolutely against AirBnB. At least, AirBnB of whole units. I&#x27;m completely fine with someone renting out rooms in their house or an additional unit on their property.<p>It is undeniable that AirBnB makes houses more expensive and reduces supply to buyers and renters.<p>Cities should be first and foremost for the people who live in them. AirBnB facilitates running illegal hotels. I&#x27;m also against people using residential property to park their money. We given real estate exemptions from reporting requirements that no other asset class has.<p>Landlords need to exist otherwise who will provide rental stock. Those landlords should be residents of those cities and not some faceless hedge fund.
hesselink超过 3 年前
It is worth noting that according to a (Dutch language) article I read this morning, 90% of the listings that were removed had not been booked in the last year according to an Airbnb spokesperson.<p>Paywalled Dutch language link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.volkskrant.nl&#x2F;nieuws-achtergrond&#x2F;airbnb-raakt-driekwart-van-zijn-adressen-kwijt-in-amsterdamse-strijd-tegen-overtoerisme~b8de3164&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.volkskrant.nl&#x2F;nieuws-achtergrond&#x2F;airbnb-raakt-dr...</a>
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mysterydip超过 3 年前
I find it interesting that the law has been in place since April, but only enforced as of October, which is presumably when all these listings were removed.
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Pinegulf超过 3 年前
If not AirBnb, then where the adds went? I doubt that the rental space would be left unused.
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cyberpsybin超过 3 年前
Good. Another scam american corporation folding on first legislation to benefit common people.
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matthewfelgate超过 3 年前
Stupid over-reaching bureaucracy.
djbebs超过 3 年前
Shame that local councils are once again meddling in things they have no business being in.
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