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70% of Americans Support Solar Mandate on New Homes

25 点作者 salzig超过 3 年前

7 条评论

LurkingPenguin超过 3 年前
Since this survey was conducted at the behest of an interested party (a &quot;leading full-service residential solar provider&quot;), it&#x27;s worth looking at what was asked. Here&#x27;s the question:<p>&gt; How much do you oppose or support a nationwide solar mandate?<p>32% expressed &quot;strong&quot; support for the mandate, while 38% expressed that they &quot;somewhat&quot; support a mandate.<p>Notably absent in the question: how much such a mandate would cost and who would pay for it.<p>I&#x27;m sure if a group that opposed solar mandates asked &quot;A nationwide solar mandate is estimated to increase the cost of a new home by $xx,xxx. How much do you oppose or support such a mandate?&quot; they&#x27;d get different results.
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mogadsheu超过 3 年前
Does the survey mention who’s going to pay for it? Seems to be a running issue for this kind of pre-legislation sentiment research
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raxxorrax超过 3 年前
I also think that young people should pay even higher prices on homes.<p>If it is a sensible investment, people will intall them. I am surprised such a mandate is popular in the US.
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Ekaros超过 3 年前
I hope that the power produced to grid will be priced on market rate. With no caps to either direction. No bullshit like net metering, just fair spot price with transmission also charged.
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mrjangles超过 3 年前
Yeah see this isn&#x27;t going to work. Currently, something tiny like 20% of the price of coal and non renewable base power comes from the cost of the actual fuel. The rest is just base costs (the price of the wires, infrastructure and the actual coal plant itself).<p>The government charging by KWh is a market distortion that only works when everyone is paying. As long as people want power all the time, including at night and when it is cloudy or not windy, those fixed costs will need to be paid. Currently, those costs are being paid by the poor who can&#x27;t afford solar panels. They are subsidizing the base power for the rich who do have solar panels but also have access to base power without actually paying for it.<p>What is going to happen once everyone owns solar panels and there is no one left to subsidize base power? Well prices will keep going up and up until they reach a singularity and the whole system will collapse. Then prices will have to be recalibrated to fit the actual market price. Which means people will no longer pay for base power by the KWh but instead by fixed costs no matter how much they use....<p>Then everyone will find they have these useless solar panels that offer no real cost advantages. Everyone will stop using them, and we will be back at square one with everyone preferring cheap, non renewable power....<p>Of course there is a supply of renewable, clean, cheap base power that everyone could use that would totally remove the need for destructive wind turbines or poisonous solar panels... but no one seems interested.
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adamnemecek超过 3 年前
&gt; conducted a survey for Vivint Solar<p>I’m sure that the survey was impartial.
dublin超过 3 年前
The economics of solar PV only work with subsidies. In addition, both the PV panel themselves as well as expensive balance-of-system components such as inverters and&#x2F;or batteries have a life expectancy that is considerably shorter than a conventional 30-year mortgage.<p>This is a horrible idea that just skyrockets the cost of new houses.