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Project SPHINX – When the USSR tried to change the computer (2019)

154 点作者 cunidev超过 3 年前

17 条评论

kragen超过 3 年前
Just to be clear, this article is about an attempt to reimagine the <i>peripherals</i> (so that several people in a household could use the same computer at the same time), not the computer itself, as in balanced-ternary SETUN, or the ferrite&#x2F;diode systems in which the Soviets held the lead in the early 01960s until they were finally obsoleted by transistors getting cheaper.<p>The article doesn&#x27;t touch on the architecture of the actual computer at all, but we can presume that, like most designs of the era (both Soviet and non-), it followed industry standards.
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rbanffy超过 3 年前
I love this design. Reminds me of the Esslinger&#x27;s desk-integrated Snow White Mac, with a touch of the Jonathan&#x27;s modular design, with a tiny bit of Bibdesign&#x27;s geometric purity.<p>Maybe we can take some inspiration on the design utopias of the past.
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thereddaikon超过 3 年前
Sadly, the article and anything else I can find with cursory google search leaves out an real specs or capabilities.<p>The article just talks about design and only briefly mentions capabilities.<p>The Soviets did have computers and did have a semiconductor industry. It was a bit behind the west but not terribly so. For example the Intel 8080 was launched in 1974 and The Soviets were able to fab clones starting in 1979.
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geezard超过 3 年前
I&#x27;ll just leave it here for anyone interested in the topic. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;translate.yandex.ru&#x2F;translate?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhabr.com%2Fru%2Fpost%2F554916%2F&amp;lang=ru-en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;translate.yandex.ru&#x2F;translate?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhabr...</a>
timdiggerm超过 3 年前
The design is cool, but was any of it actually functional at all?
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meepmorp超过 3 年前
Neat industrial design, but the keyboard looks absolutely awful to type on. I realize it probably never got made, but still.
flohofwoe超过 3 年前
Minor nitpick:<p>&quot;This picture of a parade in Berlin in 1987 shows one of the very few original PCs ever produced in a Socialist State, the VEB Robotron PC 1715 manufactured in East Germany&quot;<p>The PC1715 was actually a run-of-the-mill CP&#x2F;M compatible office computer and fairly common (together with the higher end IBM PC compatible EC 1834: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;de.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;EC_1834" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;de.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;EC_1834</a>).<p>For some actually &#x27;original&#x27; computers, check out the KC85&#x2F;2..&#x2F;4 computers (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;KC_85" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;KC_85</a>) and the extremely rare &quot;Mansfeld MPC&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;de.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mansfeld_MPC" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;de.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mansfeld_MPC</a><p>Nothing &quot;revolutionary&quot; of course, but also not straight clones of Western designs (like the PC 1715 or EC 1834).
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bruce343434超过 3 年前
Those who are interested in the esoteric computers of the USSR might be interested in the Setun 70. [0][1]<p>[0](pdf) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hal.inria.fr&#x2F;hal-01568401&#x2F;document" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hal.inria.fr&#x2F;hal-01568401&#x2F;document</a><p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ternary.3neko.ru&#x2F;setun70.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ternary.3neko.ru&#x2F;setun70.html</a>
papito超过 3 年前
Off topic, but, the USSR had a brutal education system (as in &quot;good&quot;), and lots of stellar talent. It was too poor to have the proper tools to widely cultivate that talent. At least the world got Tetris out of it.
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GekkePrutser超过 3 年前
&gt; The system was intended to replace all the technological devices in a house, computers, telephone, television, radio, audio system, and so on.<p>Wow, amazing vision considering the early tech.<p>I love the design too. I had no idea that size flat panels were a thing back then.
joshmarinacci超过 3 年前
Holy Carp, those things look so cool. Like from a vintage sci-fi film.
boomboomsubban超过 3 年前
What are the white spheres in the picture? They look like speakers, but the article only mentions the flat speakers. Soviet disco balls?
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notum超过 3 年前
Even the original photos have plastic that&#x27;s yellowed. UV blocking compounds: underrated inventions!
fao_超过 3 年前
Everyone here saying that the soviets didn&#x27;t&#x2F;couldn&#x27;t build computers, there&#x27;s literally a wikipedia list of Soviet-manufactured computers (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_Soviet_computer_systems" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_Soviet_computer_system...</a>), including this PDP-11 microcomputer:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;DVK" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;DVK</a>
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coolman123超过 3 年前
did those things even work?
bserge超过 3 年前
A surprisingly advanced concept for the 80s, and from the USSR no less.<p>I take it half (or none) of those peripherals didn&#x27;t work or were really bad?<p>Like, I can say the flat speakers using the tech available at the time would&#x27;ve sounded absolutely horrible. And the flat screen was very likely just a mockup.
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helge9210超过 3 年前
What you see at the pictures is all USSR industrial complex was capable of. And I don&#x27;t mean the computer. I mean single instance of wooden&#x2F;paper &quot;device&quot; representing how the concept would look like.
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