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Howard University’s removal of classics is a spiritual catastrophe

146 点作者 hncurious超过 3 年前

10 条评论

rfrey超过 3 年前
For clarity, this is about the university dispersing the Classics department, spreading the classes among other departments. It&#x27;s not about removing classic books from the curriculum or library or anything like that.<p>I&#x27;m not denying the move could be a precursor to removing the classes outright, but that&#x27;s speculation.
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RNCTX超过 3 年前
&gt; As German philosopher Hans-Georg Gadamer emphasized in the past century, traditions are inescapable and unavoidable. It is a question not of whether you are going to work in a tradition, but which one. Even the choice of no tradition leaves people ignorantly beholden within a language they didn’t create and frameworks they don’t understand.<p>The above is absolutely true and I can&#x27;t think of the last time I saw it mentioned. Another comment mentions Bloom and Iirc he calls it &quot;the anxiety of influence.&quot;<p>It&#x27;s why vampire stories are really romances, why what people today think of romances are always comedies, and really beyond all that, the confirmation of Ecclesiastes 1:9...<p><i>What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.</i><p>Even if you don&#x27;t believe in the religion in question it doesn&#x27;t matter, it&#x27;s in the culture you live in. If you have no knowledge of it you&#x27;re a babe in your own woods.
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noah_buddy超过 3 年前
Does anyone have a recommendation or a reading list in the classics (perhaps a Coursera or something) where I can self-study? I&#x27;m tech by trade and education but I would love to read the greats through the last several millennia in the western canon. Also open to a course or reading list that has eastern philosophy in addition.
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Igelau超过 3 年前
I mean, I went to a state school, and I don&#x27;t think we had a Classics <i>Department</i>, but we had courses on the classical era and its works if you really wanted to take them.<p>Headline makes it sound like they torched all the books. Really it probably didn&#x27;t make sense to still have a whole department for it.
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FactolSarin超过 3 年前
I don&#x27;t know, do we really need a whole department devoted to Classics (ie, Greco-Roman literature)? I feel like it can comfortably be out inside another department.
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chmod600超过 3 年前
&quot;It recognizes that the end and aim of education ... is to lift every voice.&quot;<p>What does that mean and who agreed that it is the &quot;end and aim&quot; of education?
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masswerk超过 3 年前
For a clue on the traditional importance of classics in US tertiary education, have a look at the rather extensive Greek grammar and composition parts in the Harvard admission test of 1869: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;graphics8.nytimes.com&#x2F;packages&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;education&#x2F;harvardexam.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;graphics8.nytimes.com&#x2F;packages&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;education&#x2F;harvarde...</a>
post_from_work超过 3 年前
Another non-paywalled article on the subject: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;05&#x2F;10&#x2F;995389117&#x2F;howard-universitys-decision-to-cut-classics-department-prompts-an-outcry" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;05&#x2F;10&#x2F;995389117&#x2F;howard-universitys-...</a>
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markus_zhang超过 3 年前
Shouldn&#x27;t they just rebrand it and sell it to foreigners?
qualudeheart超过 3 年前
Classics should in the post data scientific age be moved into subfield of computational linguistics.<p>Literature is both empirical (See recent work on statistical approach to computational literature studues) and subset of linguistics proper.<p>The same thing holds for classics as a proper subset of literature.<p>Problem isn’t’ really disbanding the classics department but not having classics studies computationally based or not handing field over to computational linguists.
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