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Return YouTube dislike count

130 点作者 NoWayDude1超过 3 年前

19 条评论

dotancohen超过 3 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt; You can still dislike videos to further personalize and tune your recommendations. </code></pre> 2016 Dislike button: Feature to inform other users that a video is not worth watching.<p>2021 Dislike button: Feature to inform google to show _you_ other content.<p>Google is hijacking user interface concepts to slowly train users to train the machine about how to train them.
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tauntz超过 3 年前
This is a weirdly polarizing topic. I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever clicked on the dislike button, personally (but I do click on the like button, occasionally).<p>It would seem like people use the dislike button to signal that &quot;I don&#x27;t agree with the premise of the video&quot; as much as it&#x27;s to signal that &quot;this video is actually crap&quot;. Same as with Reddit downvotes - it shouldn&#x27;t be used for downvoting legit content that you don&#x27;t agree with but.. we&#x27;ve all seen how that works in practice.<p>IMO the dislike count is useless for filtering out &quot;bad&quot; content - you have no idea if it&#x27;s really a crap video or if it was just brigaded by people who live by &quot;alternative facts&quot; and don&#x27;t like the specific video due to it having _actual_ facts (or.. politics). Other than certain genres.. like children videos&#x2F;animations.. there&#x27;s no political agenda there and dislikes are a genuine &quot;this video is crap&quot; indicator :)<p>Edit: as is rightfully pointed out in replies, tutorial&#x2F;how-to videos are other some of the other genres of videos where the dislike count is actually really useful. I totally agree with this - I just gave one example of children videos but there are definitely others as well.<p>However I still think that in the bigger picture, these genres are popular amongst us, HN folks, but by far the most YT video views come from genres where dislikes are an indication of &quot;I don&#x27;t agree with you &#x2F; I don&#x27;t like this genre of music &#x2F; I have a different political view &#x2F; I&#x27;m too old to understand this crap that kids are consuming these days &#x2F; etc&quot;. I hope I&#x27;m wrong though :)
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scohesc超过 3 年前
They&#x27;re removing dislikes because of a multitude of reasons, from my own thought.<p>1. Movie companies don&#x27;t like releasing trailers and seeing their dislike numbers reaching orbit.<p>2. The current US administration doesn&#x27;t like the vast number of dislikes on their videos compared to likes.<p>3. Advertising agencies don&#x27;t want their ads related to videos that have high numbers of dislikes, so google is finding &quot;middle ground&quot; and only making the counts visible to the creator so advertisers have less to complain about.<p>4. People get their feelings hurt when they put a lot of work into a video, only for it to immediately get disliked or &quot;brigaded&quot; by people.<p>I think the whole fear of &quot;people might dislike-brigade videos&quot; is really only a concern for any online &quot;celebrities&quot; who upset their fans, and for large companies who for some reason think like&#x2F;dislike ratios are any indication of actual opinion.<p>Possible solutions other than removing dislikes: - Youtube doesn&#x27;t count a &quot;view&quot; unless some criteria are met - I assume watch-time is one of those. Just do the same with dislikes&#x2F;likes. That will immediately get rid of the vast majority of spam up&#x2F;downlikes. (Sidenote: if they don&#x27;t have any current criteria for what constitutes a &quot;real&quot; like or dislike, that&#x27;s on them lmao)<p>- Leave it up to the creator to show or hide likes&#x2F;dislikes.<p>- Leave it up to the advertiser. If they don&#x27;t want like&#x2F;dislike counts to be shown on their videos, they get less ad revenue (which will never work, because Google likes money)<p>I&#x27;m not sure what the solution is, but I guess since Youtube &quot;is a private company and can do what they want!&quot; they&#x27;ll just keep forcing up and coming competitors out of the industry through predatory practices and maintain their top status as a video upload platform.
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systemvoltage超过 3 年前
There is so much glib defense in this thread:<p>1) I’ve never used this feature<p>2) People have nothing better to do with their time<p>3) Why do you care so much<p>Can someone explain why this is a good decision by YT without low blows? Why is this even a polarizing topic?
userbinator超过 3 年前
<i>Currently we&#x27;re using youtube API to get dislikes count</i><p>...so they just hid it from the user, and the actual number is still there if you know where to look? That&#x27;s surprising.
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lanevorockz超过 3 年前
I think the removal of the Dislike shows one of the key problems of Social Media. They want to act as old school broadcasters in the information age. The Dislike button made companies immediately aware of the success of a campaign, something that terrified the heads of marketing.<p>The idea is that once you remove the risk of executives to be exposed to bad publicity will go away. I don&#x27;t think it will work but it shows the users are not the real clients, the users are the product.
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HatchedLake721超过 3 年前
MKBHD had a good video about this topic <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CaaJyRvvaq8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=CaaJyRvvaq8</a>
ecmascript超过 3 年前
I cancelled my youtube music subscription and had that as the main reason for cancelling. You gotta vote with the wallet. But I don&#x27;t honestly think google cares about what their users cares about.<p>At least it doesn&#x27;t feel that way.
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azth超过 3 年前
Hopefully the community will come together and figure out a good solution for the mess that YT is creating.
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ccn0p超过 3 年前
Seems to me like the core of the problem is that, despite its flaws, this is one more step away from any semblance of community &quot;moderation&quot; at a time when trust in platforms is low. It doesn&#x27;t surprise me that the issue is polarizing. At its core, the world seems split on whether platforms should take a more active role in controlling content vs allowing the market to decide.
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shadowgovt超过 3 年前
Panel three of the comic at the top of the page is either an opinion or an untrue assertion, and the entire situation pretty much hinges on it.<p>No; because of brigading and pile-on effects, downvotes weren&#x27;t a quality signal for quality. That was the whole problem.
twa999超过 3 年前
the new dislike count will just be spammed &quot;dislike&quot; comments.
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throwawaygh超过 3 年前
Can someone explain why this matters so much to so many people? I&#x27;m genuinely perplexed. I&#x27;m not a regular YT user, let alone content creator, and basically treat YT like any other video hosting service. So I definitely leave open the possibility that I might be be missing something. But the extreme responses in some of these comment threads give me the distinct impression that there must be money on the line or something.
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endisneigh超过 3 年前
YouTube was without a dislike button for most of it’s existence - why care now?
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guerrilla超过 3 年前
Bless you magical wizards. I don&#x27;t know why as I haven&#x27;t analyze it much but for some reason this really frustrated me and made me feel powerless.
Pxtl超过 3 年前
The polarized post-facts world was abusing a feature, so the owners of the platform took their toys away. This should come as a surprise to nobody.
me_me_me超过 3 年前
I am on Firefox and can still see the dislike count is this AB testing?
jonnycomputer超过 3 年前
Of all the things to waste your time on. I know, its just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
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xet7超过 3 年前
All kinds of ratings systems should just be removed.<p>I have had app at Play Store for a long time. It receives only low ratings, because there is one feature missing. App itself if free and has a lot of features. How does this encourage having app at Play Store at all?<p>It is similar at all other platforms. We need encouragement for all developers. Not dislikes.
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