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They Died from Covid. Then the Online Attacks Started

32 点作者 jv_dh超过 3 年前

8 条评论

brightball超过 3 年前
One of the most disturbing things I’ve watched during the last 2 years is the number of people:<p>1. Celebrating the deaths of people who didn’t get vaccinated because they were pro.<p>2. Mocking the deaths of anyone who died from Covid under the assumption that it’s being politically over-labeled.<p>There’s a sign in a funeral home in my hometown with a quote that leaves me very disturbed about our future. “Show me the manner in which a nation or a community cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender sympathies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land and their loyalty to high ideals.”<p>- William E. Gladstone
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blamazon超过 3 年前
See for yourself the Reddit forum that NYT alludes to:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;HermanCainAward&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;HermanCainAward&#x2F;</a><p>Notable rule on that subreddit:<p>&gt; Posts about non-public figures must redact the entire name(s) of everyone in every image. Block it out completely. Don&#x27;t scribble and allow redacted names to leak through. Profile pictures are not allowed and must be blocked out.
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loudtieblahblah超过 3 年前
this is one of the many reason the left has left me.<p>things like &#x2F;r&#x2F;covidatemyface and &#x2F;r&#x2F;HermanCainAward&#x2F; - full of so-called progressives and their endless pseudo-empathy, not seeing this as opportunity to increase understanding about this situation and more as an tribalistic moment to &quot;score points&quot; and have a good laugh at the ignorance and death of others and the pain their families have to endure in the wake of their loss.
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lifefeed超过 3 年前
It&#x27;s ghoulish, but it&#x27;s also just a very political version of the Darwin Awards and Florida Man, which the internet has collectively decided is acceptable.
giantg2超过 3 年前
Is this really news? I don&#x27;t think this is a new phenomenon. I think most of us have witnessed comments like this in one topic or another - &#x27;people who didn&#x27;t get vaccinated deserved to die&#x27; (or the old gay people and AIDS stuff), &#x27;anti-gun Baldwin killed more people than all of my guns&#x27; (other old Ted Kennedy car saying), etc.
jordanpg超过 3 年前
Putting aside any special reverence we might have for the dead, I guess the abstract question is: is there any social value to publicly shaming those who uncritically call into question settled scientific claims, putting others at risk?<p>I would say there is some value. Our society will not survive if it is socially acceptable to do this. COVID is exhibit A. Climate science is exhibit B.<p>Settled scientific matters, like the usefulness of safe vaccines, is not on the same playing field as politics or religion. If there is a belief among some that settled scientific questions are a matter of non-expert public debate, then that needs to be corrected. Public shaming might help.
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tzs超过 3 年前
There&#x27;s not much use in reading the comments on &#x2F;r&#x2F;HermanCainAward, but the submissions themselves can be quite enlightening (the ones tagged &quot;awarded&quot; or &quot;nominated&quot;).<p>These follow the same general format: assorted social media posts from the subject over the course of the pandemic to the point they are hospitalized or killed by COVID, often followed by social media posts asking for help with medical bills or funeral expenses.<p>The social media posts are often reposting memes and agreeing with them. People are using these memes to help make medical decisions. Many seem convinced that by taking advice from memes instead their doctor, local or state departments of health, and similar that they are &quot;doing their own research&quot;.<p>The first thing that surprised me was how weak many of these memes were. For example I&#x27;ve seen several were people seemed to be taking seriously as an anti-mask argument a meme about how underpants and pants can&#x27;t stop people nearby from smelling your fart so why would you expect a mask to stop a virus?<p>I don&#x27;t expect everyone to remember enough from their school days to remember that we sense odor by sensing individual molecules emitted by the source of odor, that these are often quite small (one of the major fart smell molecules just has 3 atoms), and that viruses are much larger (the smallest virus has almost 30k atoms, and the COVID-19 virus has about 6700x as many as that).<p>But I&#x27;d expect everyone, before deciding that a meme is a better info source than the doctor, health departments, etc., to do at least a little checking like Googling what causes farts to smell and Googling the COVID virus and then <i>seeing</i> that the former is a lot smaller, and so yes you should expect some difference in what it takes to filter them.<p>Furthermore, a lot of these people seem to have quite a few social media friends. So even if they fail to do all of the above I&#x27;d expect them to have at least one friend who either remembers how odors and viruses work or who looks it up and warns them that the meme is giving bad advice.<p>I knew social media exposes you to a lot more misinformation than you would normally get, but I had thought that for people with many social media friends that large friend group would somewhat counter that but that doesn&#x27;t seem to be the case. For some reason it seems people&#x27;s friend groups on social media are too homogenous, and so the same weak meme gets them all.<p>It&#x27;s similar for most of the other memes common on these posts. Most are as flawed as the fart one, I would have expected a fair number of people to see the flaws immediately just from general knowledge from middle school or high school, and if not I&#x27;d have expected many to do the small amount of research to check it out, and for those who do neither I&#x27;d have expected some of the friends to do so and post. Seeing how far off my expectations were has been an eye opener.
Reuzel超过 3 年前
Good to highlight this. I became aware of the evils of the &quot;alt-right&quot; when they started trolling suicide memorial pages.<p>This is a similar attack coming from the polar side of the political spectrum. You cannot claim the moral high-ground after this.<p>If the pro-vaccine left does not distance itself from this ugly evil within their midsts, it should go a similar route as the alt-right did, in the eyes of the public: a terrorist and fascist organization.<p>Should really make you pause the next time someone on Twitter points to a target and says: do your thing.
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