Vivaldi Browser 5.0

171 点作者 philonoist超过 3 年前

24 条评论

freediver超过 3 年前

Congrats to Vivaldi!There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling.But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is about 25% slower than other Chromium based browsers. Also I assume that is the reason why is there no Vivaldi on iOS.[1] <a href="https://tedium.co/2021/02/05/vivaldi-browser-history-profile/" rel="nofollow">https://tedium.co/2021/02/05/vivaldi-browser-history-profile...</a>

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csomar超过 3 年前

I've been using Vivaldi for a few months now and basically forgot about Firefox.1. Address Bar abd Tabs in the bottom without having to hack Firefox XUL/CSS.2. Tabs. I have 7-8 stacks at any point. For example, I can start reading HN articles, leave the tabs open and them move to another stack for work, research, whatever. I have around 100+ tabs open at any time (and they consuming a little over 12Gb of memory). The tabs stick at restarts.3. Email. Simple notifications. Useful since I'm running on Arch with no desktop/notifications, etc...4. Chromium. I'm sorry but as of right now it's better than Firefox Quantum.5. Screen Capture, Transaction, QrCode support, Chrome plugins, etc...

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drcongo超过 3 年前

Vivaldi is the exact opposite of what I want from a browser. I want a rendering engine and some tabs, that's pretty much it. Vivaldi decided to encumber those two good things with a 1000 features and some horrific themes, making the entire application 1000 times slower than it could have been. Every time I've tried it it's just reminded me of that old screenshot of MS Word with all the toolbars switched on [0], a ton of unnecessary cognitive load that 0.1% of their users will find useful. Browser design by committee.[0] <a href="https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2006/02/6a0120a85dcdae970b0120a86d6311970b-pi.png" rel="nofollow">https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2006/02...</a>

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quaffapint超过 3 年前

I've read their business model... <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/" rel="nofollow">https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/</a>I just wonder how well it works in supporting them vs asking for money from their customers to support a decent/private browser stack.

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pseudalopex超过 3 年前

Themes and the translation panel are the highlights according to their blog. And speed improvements.[1][1] <a href="https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-0-desktop-themes-translate-panel/" rel="nofollow">https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-0-desktop-themes-translat...</a>

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SwiftyBug超过 3 年前

I don't understand that obsession browser developers have with themes. To the point it's a highlight in a major version.

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zmix超过 3 年前

I once liked Vivaldi. However, a few months ago I started to dislike it, since it adds more and more useless stuff instead of being innovative:* Graphics RGB color diagram * Mail client * Calendar client * Since over a year I can't play back video, that ha audio, because then the browser hangs for minutes. * Theme editor * Philips Hue integration * Razor Chroma intergration * (sophisticated) time based theme changes * built in Vivaldia computer gameand these were just the things I found in the first four settings categories... Oh, Notes comes to mind... that doesn't belong into the browser, it belongs into a separate application...and so on...Yes, the tabs are nice, the quick command (F2) is nice, there is a few other things (it doesn't crash, which is a big one!) but the only reason I am still with it, is, that I have already stored so much information in it and I am too lazy to switch.It's a browser, that is slowly getting infantile.

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nice_byte超过 3 年前

i've been using vivaldi for the past 3 years, and it's fantastic. i really like the customizability, the stacked tabs feature, the builtin rss reader (which by the way, lets you subscribe to youtube channels!). really hope they make it, because the thought of going back to chrome makes me shudder now.

zaiste超过 3 年前

Congrats on the release! I like this browser a lot; it's a comprehensive, battery-included solution.If they supported Firefox-like multi-account containers [1], it'd switch entirely to Vivaldi. Their tab grouping is really good, the session separation is the only thing missing here. :)[1]: <a href="https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/25289/multi-account-containers/148?lang=en-GB&page=8" rel="nofollow">https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/25289/multi-account-containe...</a>

st3fan超过 3 年前

"Can't use $ in password" - i'm curious what the story is

Chevalier超过 3 年前

Vivaldi is easily the best browser I've ever used, bar none. But for lacking two-factor authentication on the account itself, I have no complaints - the vertical tabs, web panels, bookmark tree, and the Human theme are unrivaled by any other browser.I didn't discover Vivaldi until recently, but I'm a fanatical convert now. Strongly recommended.

CynicusRex超过 3 年前

Hands down the best browser I've ever used because of their customizability and speed, and the support on their forum is swift and effective. Moreover, the developers are staunchly against crypto“currencies”. Seldom, some websites break, but that's because I extensively use uMatrix.

pndy超过 3 年前

The ability to set texture beneath tabs bar and have it colored according to either theme color or site accent color remains still broken, since few major versions already. Shame because I really liked that little feature; despite of my reports, nobody dared to see what's up with this issue.Overall, it's a really good browser that fits my needs with few extensions. I've moved to Vivaldi after Firefox released version 60 - my heavily customized profile was damaged beyond recovery; luckily I had already bookmarks backed up and passwords stored outside.

pixelgeek超过 3 年前

So two questions for the groupmind here.1) I asked this previously but is it really that difficult to take a screenshot on Windows?"Vivaldi’s built-in Capture tool lets you capture either a Full Page screenshot, or a Selection of the screen that you define. It can be accessed in a number of ways through the Vivaldi UI to give you flexibility in how you implement the tool."2) The fully loaded version of the browser comes with a mail client, calendar and contacts. Didn't Netscape Navigator already show us that this confluence of features was a disaster for a browser?

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cute_boi超过 3 年前

No container support? It was the most requested feature. I use vivaldi instead of brave when firefox fails to support website. But having no container is kinda sad :(

nsonha超过 3 年前

A speed chart on the Downloads panel? The same reaction I had when windows 8 added a chart for file copying speed: who cares?I get that there are nerds who like a number for everything. Just a speed number is fine, but almost no one just sit there and watch a live chart of file copying/downloading speed, as if they have nothing else to do with their computer.

jernejzen超过 3 年前

So guess that if you want extensions you need to go through Google machinery.. and your back to their telemetry empire?

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Nux超过 3 年前

Fun fact, Microsoft (Skype) will not accept user@vivaldi.net as a personal email address for new accounts.It needs to be gmail/yahoo/outlook etc.<a href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETZDicXEAEjlSQ?format=jpg&name=small" rel="nofollow">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETZDicXEAEjlSQ?format=jpg&name=...</a>

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throwaway123x2超过 3 年前

With FireFox becoming more and more unusable, does anybody with experience know if Vivaldi or Brave are objectively better (or faster or more stable)?

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amyjess超过 3 年前

Have Vivaldi's devs said whether or not they'll be requiring Manifest V3? I'd hope that if anyone rejects V3 it would be Vivaldi...

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zafiro17超过 3 年前

Every time a vivaldi post shows up on HN it attracts a lot of negative comments (and some positive ones). Will just add my voice to the mix - Vivaldi is my primary browser and I love it. On my 5 year old laptop I experience no slowness, and I generally enjoy it's very user-focused features. I also enjoyed Opera prior to version 12. I recognize it's not the browser for everyone, but on my Linux boxes it's the second app I install (mutt is the first one). Your experience may vary.

mdrzn超过 3 年前

I've been using Vivaldi for about 3 months and I'm so close to going back to Chrome.RTX 2060, 32GBs RAM and YouTube still lags???

kangaroozach超过 3 年前

Is it built on chromium?

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kkjjkgjjgg超过 3 年前

Used it for a while, but unfortunately performance was degrading eventually (earlier version).However I really miss one simple feature, that they have a search field above the vertical tabs that can be used to filter the tabs.