Ask HN: How is your experience with a mechanical keyboard?

23 点作者 samrohn777超过 3 年前

Do you own a mechanincal keyboard ? Which one ? What type of key does it use ? How is your experience with it so far? Do you think it boosts your productivity compared to a conventional keyboard ?

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ivanche超过 3 年前

Kinesis Advantage 2, Cherry MX Brown switches. I have it since September, so 3 months now.It takes some time getting used to it. People say it's at least 2 weeks, but my experience is at least 2 months. I didn't know how to touch type before although I typed with 10 fingers. So in parallel I'm learning touch typing and getting used to a different layout (i.e. thumb cluster). When I passed 30 WPM threshold I finally started feeling comfortable and productive.To me, biggest gain wasn't productivity but comfort/ergonomics! 80% of the finger pain was gone in 2 weeks. My shoulder and back posture is just way better. I don't slam the keys anymore, just gentle touch is enough to press them. I also "cheat" a bit by using Karabiner Elements with Space Cadet and Super Duper modes, and it's been a godsend.To recap, it is expensive but I would never ever go back to any other keyboard :)

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lproven超过 3 年前

Yes, IBM Model M. I have about 5, which I saved from being thrown out in the 1990s.I carried one in my luggage when I emigrated, 7 years ago. I've used it in 4 office jobs over 5 years, with a grand total of 2 (two) people complaining in all that time.1991 model with buckling springs, UK layout. The best PC keyboard ever made (I intentionally exclude Macs -- that'd be the AEK1, followed by AEK2 -- possibly with early DEC VT terminals in the early 1980s).The hype about noise is totally overrated.

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dusted超过 3 年前

I've owned two(1). The first was a Filco Majestouch Otaku, blue cherry switches, very loud and clicky. Very very comfortable and satisfying for me to use. Started suffering from switch bouncing after only a few years, also even while the keycaps were blank, they were apparantly coated with something, which was worn down from usage. With better firmware, I'd recommend, but it's no longer in production.My current keyboard, I've had for 6 years, it's from WASDkeyboards.com and it still performs very satisfyingly. It is a standard ISO layout with red cherry switches. While the switches themselves do no click, it is still satisfying to use, and less hard on my fingers (when you've learned not to rest your fingers on the keys, as they are very light). I had one switch become defective within a month, but WASD sent me two new replacements and noted that I had opted to do the repair myself and have it still be covered by warranty! (VERY NICE!). Again I opted for blank keys, and again there is apparantly still some coating on top of them that is worn down.. Some of the keycaps are now more concave from plastic being physically worn away, but new keycaps can be obtained. I'm very happy with both the style, function and especially quality of this keyboard, and it is highly worth the price to me, as it's lasted longer than any other keyboard I've owned, and continues to be an absolute pleasure to use..At work I use some random dell rubberdome thing, that's fine too, just not as satisfying to use.I don't think any of the keyboards have boosted my productivity, if they work, have no stuck or bouncing keys and their layout is usable for me, then I'm limited by brain speed, not finger speed.(1) I also had a steelseries g6v2 but it broke so quickly and had other issues, it's not worth mentioning. I've also used an IBM model M for a year to annoy someone at work, but it was not pleasant for me, even if it's supposed to be the holy grail, I own several, for my old computers, and they belong there in my opinion.

firatcan超过 3 年前

I'm using Keychron K2 - <a href="https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-wireless-mechanical-keyboard" rel="nofollow">https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-wireless-mecha...</a>So far it was great, I love tactile sound of a mechanical keyboard. There is some sort of pleasure in it. But to be honest, it's easier to use MX keys or an Apple Keyboard. Because my hands get sore after writing couple of hours without break.Would I suggest K2? Yeah it's a great keyboard but If I'm on a market for Mechanical Keyboard I would buy K8 or C1 because I hate to press fn key everytime I want to control volume etc.

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zuj超过 3 年前

I don't own one. Haven't given it a serious thought. But as a non user, it annoys me. I can't work next to a person who is banging away on the mechanical keyboard. I don't know the benefits he is gaining but it definitely affects my ability to concentrate. I am pretty much on my headphones when ever I am sitting next to a mechanical keyboarder.

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bananamerica超过 3 年前

I ordered one with blue switches but they came brown by mistake. Very cheap keyboard, from the brand RedDragon. It was my first, and I really like the feel. I was actually glad for the mixup, because the brown is pretty noise already. I'm afraid I'll wakeup my wife when I type during the night, or even the neighbors!Blue switches would be a nightmare.

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mlac超过 3 年前

With respect to productivity - any gains you save from moving to a mechanical keyboard will not make up for the time you spend researching, purchasing, and thinking about the mechanical keyboard.I replied to other comments, but I like my Kinesis Advantage 2 for the ergonomics. I liked my Das Keyboard because it felt like I was interacting with a premium device, and was just a nice, solid way to use a computer. Yes it would make me more productive than a broken keyboard, but no, I don’t think it’s a huge gain (I also use laptop keyboards from time to time).Investing money in what goes between you and the ground makes sense. Another thing to consider spending money on is what you touch throughout the day.

mcint超过 3 年前

I use a Das keyboard, full with Cherry MX Brown switches, that I bought most of a decade ago, early on in college. I've tried a variety of mechanical keyboards, from friends and at a student-run computer lab, so I know the sensations available, in terms of actuation force and tactile and linear variants.I bottom out hard, and feel knuckle-, eventually wrist-pain, when typing intently for more than half an hour on Apple external keyboards. In the long run, it keeps typing more comfortable, so it's a kind of survival advantage.To reduce noise, it's my current practice to put a thin hand towel under the keyboard, both at home and at co-working spaces. It eliminates some of the deeper more noticeable noises. This helps lessen annoyance, or at least comments, from friends, roommates, and partners, and so is again, a survival (of on-going use of my current setup) advantage.

doubled112超过 3 年前

I've gone through a couple and finally settled. I can't imagine the same setup would work for everybody.I really like the big space between the keys older keyboard used to have. I don't like a lot of flatter Logitech keyboards because if you don't push straight down, the key doesn't press. I think this is most of the "productivity increase", to be honest. I miss less because the keys are farther apart more than they go click click.I am not a super fan of RGB, but if you're always in the dark it helps you find your keyboard. A mouse is different because you can just swipe your arm around.Das Pro 4 w MX Cherry Blues - clicky (read: loud), feels good, survived baby puke with no problems after cleanup. Even with a headset on I found I needed to type quietly or it would attract attention in meetings.Corsair STRAFE RGB w Cherry Reds - silent and linear, and linear means no pressure is needed to activate the switch. I don't know if I would have liked this as the first one, but only needing the gentlest touch to type really helps.Right now I use a Dreevo Calibur V2 w/ Outemu Red switches. Feels much the same as the same as the Corsair at less than half the price. It's basically a mechanical laptop keyboard layout wise, and I've learned to appreciate the keys not being so far away from my mouse. Frees up a ton of space on the desk too.

aricz超过 3 年前

I use HHKB Professional 2 <a href="https://www.hhkeyboard.com/uk/products/pro2" rel="nofollow">https://www.hhkeyboard.com/uk/products/pro2</a>. Typing feels mellow, and I enjoy the "thock" sound it creates. It looks sexy (black/charcoal with blank keys). It also has Unix layout.Only problem is the price is steep. I think it's worth it.

wishinghand超过 3 年前

I have an Ergodox-EZ. I originally ordered it with loud clicky key switches but have converted to a much quieter switch with a weaker spring. I chose that model because of the columnar layout. I really only use about 48 keys on it due to the layers that firmware gives you. I have a full size number pad on the right if I hold down the “a” key, and the home row on the right switches to arrow keys if I hold down “f”. I’ve got another layer for working on MacOS so I don’t have to have funky layouts to make it work between Apple, Windows, and Linux.The model I have is also tented and that’s where there’s a huge gain for me. The fact that I can position the two halves of my keyboard anywhere and that they’re tented relives a lot of stress in my wrists and elbow. I might not still be a developer without this tool. Whenever I travel with just a laptop I bring a Keyboardio Atreus. It’s not tented but it’s enough to help me get through short trips.

iamevn超过 3 年前

I don't know about boosting productivity but the mechanical keyboards I've used have been much more comfortable than the mushy rubber dome keyboards or those extremely thin apple keyboards that feel like you're just mashing your fingers into a metal plate. I've never compared typing speed across keyboards but I definitely do feel more confident that my keypresses are going in the order I intend when I can feel the click of the switch actuating. Also I've found I'm able to type much longer without shoulder/wrist/arm pain when I use a split keyboard with the two halves spread shoulder-width apart.I've used a Rosewill RK-9000 (basic full-size keyboard) with Cherry MX Brown switches since around 2013 and have had to replace a couple switches but otherwise it has served me well. A friend spilled diet coke all over it early on but disassembling it and washing all the plastic parts in soapy water and the pcb in distilled water was enough to clean that. It still works wonderfully but either I've gotten used to more tactile switches or the browns in it have gotten less tactile in the last 8 years.A few years ago I got a Matias ErgoPro with quiet click switches to use at work. I love the split profile and the layout with the bigger left ctrl key and the right ctrl key on your right thumb. Unfortunately a few switches started giving me problems: they'd either keep sending keypresses even though the key was not held down or they'd not send keypresses when I press them. I've heard lots of people have similar issues and I think there was a bad batch of switches or something. From what I've heard Matias is really good about customer service and will replace your keyboard but I wanted to have extra switches to use on diy projects anyways so I just bought a bag of 200 switches and replaced them myself. I'm tempted to have a go at writing some custom firmware to turn the hard-coded shortcut keys into real macro keys. The switches are super quiet but still feel clicky which made this perfect for work.Most recently I picked up a Tex Shinobi kit with green switches which are extremely loud (especially on the metal plate in that keyboard) but feel good. The keyboard is laid-out like classic ThinkPad keyboards and even has the little red pointer nub. I don't use it too much now since my work keyboard is at home. (Also my partner is always home and it really is loud so I tend to just use it for when I've got a laptop hooked up to a television and this keyboard in my lap where it won't resonate as much as on a desk.)

wnkrshm超过 3 年前

I think my keyboard makes me happier at work and that indirectly boosts my productivity - I like the look and feel of it. It's a Vortex Race3 with brown MX switches, I didn't want to get on the nerves of my colleagues too much. So far, no complaints.

anotherevan超过 3 年前

I've got a Keyboardio Model 100 on order which I'm hoping will arrive in January. I'll be graduating from a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000, the model I've loved and used for donkey's ages.I'll admit I'm a bit anxious about choosing the switches. Every time I read about mechanical keyboards it seems to be "a big deal™". I'll be choosing between Kailh Silent BOX Brown (tactile), BOX red (linear), BOX white (clicky) switches, plus a fourth yet to be decided.Noise is a bit issue - quieter the better - so the whites are off the menu. Have to dig into the pros and cons at some point.

neverminder超过 3 年前

At home I have Razer Huntsman V2 Analog. Not clicky, but not particularly quiet either.At the office I have Razer Huntsman V2 with linear optical switches. Surprisingly quiet, quieter than most membrane keyboards even.Huntsman keyboards are very comfortable (detachable leather wrist rest) and build feels indestructible (metal base). They do have one very annoying flaw - the volume wheel gave up on both 2 previous keyboards I had and the 3rd one I'm on is already showing signs. I don't understand why Razer wouldn't fix something so seemingly simple on otherwise very good product.

bob1029超过 3 年前

I used to have a variety of heavy, clicky blue switch keyboards. I now primarily use a Realforce R2 TKL. The capacitive switches are faster, quieter and easier on my hands. I can go as long as I want without hurting now. Takes some getting used to but it's better for me in every way.When is the last time someone made a bunch of noise on your conference line because of their keyboard choice? Imagine being able to type furiously while unmuted and no one able to hear it. This is almost like a super power compared to where I used to be.

Gatsky超过 3 年前

I have used a full size Ducky mechanical, and TKL cheap mechanical, all with Cherry Brown switches.To be honest, I didn't find it a revelation. I currently use a Microsoft Sculpt and I generally prefer it for the ergonomics. My typing speed, which is not brilliant, is about the same across all these boards. I still use cheap dome keyboards at work and don't mind them despite having used mechs.Mechs tend to have a high profile so make sure your desk set up can handle that without putting your arms and shoulders in suboptimal positions.

WithinReason超过 3 年前

Good: They usually have N-key rollover (or NKRO), meaning you can press many keys and all of them register. Most membrane keyboards can miss keys when you press more than 2, e.g. if you type "CD" by pressing shift+c+d.Maybe good: lower latency down to 1 ms.Bad: Larger key travel slows down your typing, which you can fix by stacking a few o-rings under the keys. Clicky keys are super annoying, but thankfully there are silent switches out there.

culopatin超过 3 年前

I used to have an MX brown keyboard and one day I got the MX keys at work. I ended up buying another one for home. For some reason I like it much better and I don’t feel any strain. I type faster too.Long story short, I think it’s all personal preference, but if you get yourself in the world of mech keyboards, the environment might change you into thinking that’s what’s good and what you should be using.

pjc50超过 3 年前

I have an original model M. I left it in the office I've not been back to for two years, because if I use it at home it annoys my wife.

moooo99超过 3 年前

I have tried two mechanical keyboards. While the tactile feel is very satisfying, I don’t get the overall hype. After longer typing sessions my hands feel sore, mainly thanks to the fairly large build height. I’m not a particularly fast typer, but my typing speed doesn’t really differ significantly between the mechanical keyboard I tried and my current MX Keys one.

qyron超过 3 年前

Using Ergodox and Moonlander on daily basis. I think most of gain in my case comes from the the keyboard being split, staggered layout, programmable etc.Mechanical switches are just nice bonus. Of course it's fun to try different switches, keycaps, o-ring and pimp the keyboard in some way but I don't think it boosts my productivity in any way or helps with RSI....

hu3超过 3 年前

Most of my hand finger pain vanished within a week of replacing cheap Logitech keyboard with a mechanical one.Best thing I bought in 2021 for sure.It's loud though.

gedy超过 3 年前

Can't say it's boosted productivity much, but I got into mechanical keyboards to improve my typing habits. I am using ortholinear keyboards which make sure I'm using the right fingers for the right key/column. After years of developing before this, I had a terrible form of hands dancing around the keyboard with 5-6 fingers.

BasilPH超过 3 年前

I never got the attraction of mechanical keyboards until somebody wrote that they see a mechanical keyboard as a sign that they invest in their craft by having quality tools. And that every time they sit down and start tipping this thought gives them joy.I liked this idea so much that I got myself Moonlander and haven't looked back since.

jstx1超过 3 年前

Keychron K6, small footprint + arrow keys = niceI have yellow switches because I modded it a bit but the red ones are nice enough (personally not a fan of brown/blue).Overall it's cheaper than an Apple keyboard and nicer to type on even without any modifications, what's not to like.Don't worry about productivity; just find something that you like typing on.

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squarefoot超过 3 年前

IBM Model M. I have two, the 1st one I'm using right now and the 2nd one that I will use when the 1st one breaks, which probably means never. I believe this one is dated 1993, but might be older as it still carries a Lotus 1-2-3 v2.2 sticker on it. Yes, it's loud, but that's not a problem in my case.

speedcoder超过 3 年前

I use a Kinesis Freestyle Pro and love it. <a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle-pro/" rel="nofollow">https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle-pro/</a>. The split keyboad allows me to keep my sholders back which enables many more hours of keyboard use.

8fingerlouie超过 3 年前

I've had a couple over the past decade or so.If you look past the old IBM PS/2 keyboards, in recent history i've owned:- Das Keyboard 4 Professional (<a href="https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional/" rel="nofollow">https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional/</a>), which was a nice "starter keyboard". I've heard quality has gone downhill since, but mine performed well. I eventually came to dislike the form factor of it because it was causing my wrists to hurt after prolonged use.- Ducky One 2 (<a href="https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/One-2-Phantom-Black" rel="nofollow">https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/One-2-Phantom-Black</a>), this one came highly recommended. I purchased one with MX Brown switches for use at work. It took about 3 days for my colleagues to complain about the noise. It is very comfortable to use, but God it's loud. It now lives at my work-from-home desk.- Logitech G613 (<a href="https://www.logitechg.com/en-au/products/gaming-keyboards/g613-wireless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.920-008402.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.logitechg.com/en-au/products/gaming-keyboards/g6...</a>), this one has Romer switches, and is actually quite nice to use. Not too loud and nice tactile feedback. It's rather large, and with COVID and work from home, i needed more "desk space", so it's sitting in my closet at the moment.- Keychron K8 (<a href="https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018253054041" rel="nofollow">https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wir...</a>), this is probably the best mechanical keyboard i have. It's still rather new, and by using it i think i can feel that i'm going to have a problem with keys binding at some point, it has that little resistant "pop up", but for now it's great.As for typing speed, the Ducky or Keychron are the fastest with the least errors. That is of course a very personal measurement, and your typing speed might be better or worse with different keyboards.Do they boost my productivity ? Depends how you define it. I make fewer typos on my mechanical keyboards, and experience less "inger fatigue", but i probably wouldn't chalk it up to a significant percentage when it comes to productivity. It's more of a personal preference.

copperx超过 3 年前

After five years with the Kinesis Advantage 2, I realized my typing speed used to be faster when I had a traditional keyboard, so I switched to a cheap Redragon keyboard with blue-style switches and I am much happier.

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rockbruno超过 3 年前

I had a Cherry MX Brown for a couple of years. It's nice, but I honestly feel that Apple's keyboards feel better for coding.Also, an important point is that I stopped using it because my wife found the noise very annoying.

polyterative超过 3 年前

After changing something like 4 keyboards my endgame is a semicustom ortolinear assemblen from parts sourced on aliexpless. hotswap pcb is a MUST imo. I have 3 different switches in my keeb. Using kailh box white.

2Gkashmiri超过 3 年前

i have this keyboard and on the back of it is written a 1995 date so this is 26 years old and works perfectly. <a href="https://qphs.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e3231584b18e9b509d1a1f3530930030-lq" rel="nofollow">https://qphs.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e3231584b18e9b509d1a1...</a>well a "TVS" branded one but repaired it a couple years ago and has been running fine. people do complain its "loud"

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peanut_worm超过 3 年前

I would be lying if I said they made me more productive but they are very satisfying to use. Make sure you get a full size one.

skytreader超过 3 年前

I have the Razer Black Widow Tournament Edition, Numpadless, Cherry MX Blue switches. I've had it since 2013, with a spotty usage record: I used it heavily at work 2013-2014, then only for gaming 2016-2019 (and I'm not a heavy gamer, mostly used it to finish The Witcher 3, maybe 180 hours over this period), and ever since I've WFHed I've been using it as a daily driver, maybe more intensely than the 2013-2014 period.I love it! Although productivity wise, I'd say it's only a marginal psychological advantage that I enjoy typing. During the in-between period where I only used my MKB for TW3, I was issued a couple of gaming laptops for work, with tactile rubber dome[1] keys. That's when I realized that the tactile feedback is what makes me enjoy my MB. So maybe a high-end rubber dome keyboard with good tactile feedback would also do the trick for me.Unpopular opinion these days maybe but I also like the sound of Cherry MX Blues, adds to the enjoyment. Nowadays I have to make an effort to type gently during work calls but I think that's more my sound set-up than anything (it's very basic). As I said, I've used it in the workplace/in-person office to no issue but maybe social norms can differ. But I'm of the opinion some of the complaints about the noise of blue switches is exaggerated.It's also great for gaming, at least for TW3. I never thought I'd be one of those guys who would say their equipment affected their performance but I'm pretty sure it did here. Even with the gaming laptops from work which I used five days a week, it was noticeably easier for me to react instinctively and not miss that crucial keystroke in a boss battle. I'd say it's the physical depth of the keys; laptops by design are just too shallow, tactile feedback be damned[2]. Or maybe the fact that even by default this keyboard is already angled.Form factor is also great. Not too wide, just about the same width as even small laptops. Very personal preference but it's how I like it, it doesn't strain my wrists.Lastly, the honest drawbacks. For some reason this keyboard needed a lot of maintenance during the time I was using it only sparingly for games. That's despite the fact that I kept it in the sleeve it came with. Every few months or so, keys would get stuck so I'd have to pry off the keycaps, blow air/gently dust off the switches, and rinse the keycaps in soapy water. Then of course dry it off before putting them back in one by one. But with constant usage, this kind of problems don't crop up. Weird if you ask me.[1] I'm not a keyboard nerd so I'm not sure if this is accurate wording. But I hope you get my drift.[2] Again, I'm not a keyboard nerd.

firemelt超过 3 年前

overrated and unnecessary