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YK22 bug causing Honda clocks to stop working

148 点作者 throwawayHN378超过 3 年前

15 条评论

uxamanda超过 3 年前
Honda responds “We have escalated the NAVI Clock Issue to our Engineering Team and they have informed us that you will experience issue from Jan 2022 thru August 2022 and then it will auto-correct.”<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crvownersclub.com&#x2F;threads&#x2F;2022-clock-fault-official-honda-responses-all-models.224397&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.crvownersclub.com&#x2F;threads&#x2F;2022-clock-fault-offic...</a>
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jeroenhd超过 3 年前
You know, I fully understand the reasons for MS to use a date format in an integer for a version number in some kind of package; it was a bit silly of them not to use a 64-bit integer for the version number there, but at least it made sense.<p>With this, I don&#x27;t understand the reason at all. It seems to be the same issue, but why would you ever use an integer formatted as a date to display the clock? That&#x27;s the other way around, and it&#x27;s probably more work to create such integers than to use string formatting!<p>This sucks for Honda owners because it&#x27;ll take forever for any update to come out, and those updates will probably cost money as well. One of the forum users says a firmware update DVD goes for $150, that&#x27;s just insane.
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Milner08超过 3 年前
It&#x27;s been years since I frequented a forum like that and the admin claiming that people should just ignore it and its not an issue because people have smartphones really drives home what I hate about them.
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acomjean超过 3 年前
I have this too.<p>Its weird, every time you start the car it goes back to Jan 1, 2002 5pm (my car is a 2010 element). The bug seems to effect cars with the gps navigation unit in the radio slot.<p>Attempts to override the time in settings show that the unit only allows you to &quot;adjust existing time&quot; by some number of hours or minutes. When you start the car, it seems to get the time from the gps again, so you can&#x27;t just &quot;fix&quot; the time.<p>I used to work on systems that would work with GPS time and UTC time. Its always tricker than one would think..<p>I never realized how frequently I looked at the clock. If I get annoyed enough, my solution might be the stick on lcd clock.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Bell-Automotive-37003-Stick-Clock-Black&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B000IG3QUM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Bell-Automotive-37003-Stick-Clock-Bla...</a>
hollasch超过 3 年前
The moderator there has shut down all conversation about this topic, so putting this possible workaround here. The mod simply responded &quot;doesn&#x27;t work&quot;, but I&#x27;d love to hear more details from someone who&#x27;s experiencing the problem. --<p>I have a workaround for people to try (I don&#x27;t have the problem myself). I&#x27;ve read the related (two, I think) threads here, and haven&#x27;t seen this workaround proposed, so perhaps it might work as a hack.<p>Others have mentioned that you can disable automatic (GPS sourced) updates, and switch to manual. If you can do that, and set the year to 1994, then your year will be wrong, but your month, day, and time will all be correct, and should suffice for the next six years, including the leap year 2024 (which would display as 1996). Unfortunately, the year 2000 is not a leap year, and you&#x27;d hit this in 2028, which is a leap year, so you&#x27;d need to set it back to 1994 again when this happens. If you can set your year back to 1966, that will give you 24 years of successful calendar updates. Other years that will work and would give you even more time would be 1938 and 1910.<p>There is a catch, however -- Daylight Saving Time. If the system is dumb about DST in manual mode, then everything&#x27;s great, and you&#x27;ll just have to adjust the clocks entering and existing DST. If it&#x27;s a little bit smarter, locking in modern regimes for DST, then everything will still be great, and you won&#x27;t have to adjust your clocks manually. However, if it&#x27;s very smart, then US residents will have a problem, because the rules for DST changed in 2007. That means you&#x27;ll have to manually adjust on the modern DST dates, and manually correct on the historical DST dates. But that&#x27;s just moving updating the hours four times a year worst case. UK DST was last changed in 2002, I believe, and the same caveats apply: you may have to manually adjust your hours several times a year.<p>Very curious to hear if anyone has success with this hack.
PopAlongKid超过 3 年前
I drive an older Toyota car, the clock only shows hours and minutes. I wonder who decided it was necessary or helpful to start including calendar dates in a car clock display.
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rekabis超过 3 年前
Sounds like the date-stored-as-integer “bug” strikes again.<p>And here I thought something this blatantly stupid was just an urban myth among programmers. Huh.
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perryizgr8超过 3 年前
YK22 expands to Year 1022. Why not use the correct acronym Y2K22?
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nerdjon超过 3 年前
I am a little confused here, the y2k bug at least followed some logic.<p>But I am not following what about &quot;2022&quot; could have caused something like this in a few different areas. Can someone explain?
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kmetan超过 3 年前
It looks like the gps week number rollover is not handled correctly<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;GPS_week_number_rollover" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;GPS_week_number_rollover</a><p>&quot;Software that is not coded to anticipate the rollover to zero may stop working or could be moved back in time by 20 or 40 years&quot;
DavidPeiffer超过 3 年前
This bug impacts me. What sucks is the resale value would probably take a hit if I wanted to resell before August when the issue will supposedly disappear. Does anyone have a thought on how it will fix itself? In my head, we&#x27;re already at &#x27;22&#x27; for the start of the variable value and it&#x27;s only going up, so I&#x27;m not seeing how it&#x27;ll fix itself intuitively.<p>I&#x27;m really curious how car dealers with a CR-V on the lot are handling this. I wouldn&#x27;t want to buy a car the clock doesn&#x27;t work on, and imagine most people wouldn&#x27;t either. And with the clock resetting every time the car turns on, it&#x27;s not like you can set it for the day and be fine while you run errands. I&#x27;m either stuck with this car until the automatic fix in August or until they come up with a better fix (which hopefully is free) or I need to replace the head unit to get a fair deal. Given the chip shortage and crazy price of cars, it may not be an issue for me, but it certainly is for some.
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gpmcadam超过 3 年前
wouldn&#x27;t it be Y2K22?
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akemichan超过 3 年前
All they need to fix it is an IBM 5100
steacher超过 3 年前
My car Honda CRV2011 is set to Jan 1 2001. Clock resets to 4 hours ahead. Unable to rest it. Can anyone offer help? Thanks!
bellyfullofbac超过 3 年前
&gt; This thread will be locked if people cannot grow up and rein in their pseudo hysteria.<p>Hah, welcome to the Internet, A.D. 2022. The amount of forum posts that are either &quot;This happened to me too!&quot; or that plus &quot;I can&#x27;t believe it, ehat a worthless car manufacturer, I&#x27;m starting a &#x27;Ban Honda for life&#x27;-group!!!&quot; is way too much.
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