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Asian Boss planted deep blue YouTuber and pretended he was a 'man on the street'

232 点作者 legofr超过 3 年前

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laurieg超过 3 年前
I once interpreted for a crew recording &quot;man on the street&quot; interviews. I had no experience working in TV, I was a last minute replacement.<p>At the beginning of the day, the producer listed the opinions he wanted to get. &quot;Ok, we&#x27;ll get a middle aged guy who says this, a younger couple saying something along these lines&quot;. He knew exactly what he wanted at the start of the day.<p>There were three camera crews working most of the day getting interviews. I get the feeling that with a bit of editing you could have make &quot;the public&quot; have pretty much any view on a topic that you want.
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kinghtown超过 3 年前
I live in Taiwan. Very, very few people here are pro-PRC. Tons of Taiwanese people love China and culturally consider themselves Chinese (to be clear, not Chinese citizens.)<p>The vast majority of people disagree on if they should either give up and surrender to the PRC because they may launch missiles or invade once they have a non-laughing stock navy, avoid a bloody war, or if China wouldn’t dare to do that because it would trigger WW3 so they are safe to declare and protect their country (Taiwan.)<p>Everyone out here agrees that the PRC is basically evil.<p>Edit: Just want to add that a lot of you probably have no idea that Chinese people and Taiwanese people also get along with each other just fine. They are unfortunately a geopolitical chess piece on the table between the PRC and Deep State US.<p>I find it deliciously ironic that when Taiwanese people travel or work in China that they use their ROC (Taiwanese) passport and there is no issue with that. A lot of the conflict is also theatre for your American news cycle.
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zuminator超过 3 年前
0) This surprisingly has nothing to do with chess engines or the US Democratic Party.<p>1) Documentary programs are almost always faked, in the sense that they present false continuity and false spontaneity. People often don&#x27;t notice the manufactured aspect unless a subject they&#x27;re intimately involved with is featured, and then it&#x27;s immediately apparent.
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anyfactor超过 3 年前
I used to see these Vox Pop YouTube videos occasionally. Like the line up videos, street interviews and what not. The issue I realized people are never going to give their open and unbiased opinion about something. Because they are moderated, edited and these people are always subjected to some form peer pressure from the group or the producers surrounding them.<p>Moreover the questions are drafted in a &quot;so you are saying&quot; kind of way. Now that is assuming the production is random and fair and they are not hiring actors or screening people based on their political belief systems, which is obviously not the case.<p>Being outside of US, I thought there are geopolitical and socially ambiguous questions which were drafted in a pattern that subtly were politically biased.<p>Now, subtle political biasness would make people think I am a little bit out there. But what I realized I don&#x27;t inherently have any strong political feelings at all. There are some objectively true facts that are often being manipulated to fit narratives. So it is best just to ignore these shows all together.<p>These Vox Pop crap is nothing better than day time reality shows like 90 Days Fiancé, but atleast these reality shows are transparently stupid and does not want toy with an agenda.
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iso1210超过 3 年前
Vox Pops, they&#x27;re awful when the media use it, but at least the vox pop is supposed to highlight the story rather than set the story.<p>Why anyone listens to it when some random youtube channel does is incomprehendable.<p>Ask 1000 people a simple question and you&#x27;ll get 10 crazy answers. Show 9 crazy answers and 1 normal question and claim 90% of people are crazy.
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SergeAx超过 3 年前
For those who like me didn&#x27;t understand the title. From paragraph 9:<p>&gt; For those who don&#x27;t know, &quot;deep blue&quot; means very pro-KMT, generally favoring Chinese identity, closer ties with China and eventual unification with China.<p>Search for KMT leads to Wikipedia article that says it is the same as Guomindang, the party was exciled from mainland China to Taiwan in 1949. I don&#x27;t know how it evolved to &quot;eventual unification&quot; from &quot;Taiwan is the only China&quot;, so I prefer to skip the article entirely as non-comprehensible.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kuomintang" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kuomintang</a>
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shmde超过 3 年前
The title sounds very cryptic. It should actually be somewhere along the lines of &quot;Asian Boss a YouTube channel interviewed a popular Pro-CCP Youtuber and pretended he was just an ordinary man on the street&quot;
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gerikson超过 3 年前
Fascinating to learn about the &quot;Blue&#x2F;Green&quot; divide in Taiwanese attitudes to China. Does anyone know where the colors comes from?
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vlkr超过 3 年前
I wonder how many accounts the chinese state maintains on hackernews to upvote&#x2F;downvote post and comments. It&#x27;s an easy way to influence the public opinion and hard to expose.
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dncornholio超过 3 年前
For me it was apparent this channel is pure propoganda and i&#x27;m astonished this is up so high on HN. Couldn&#x27;t even take the channel serious.
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netcan超过 3 年前
This is an instance of something true-by-default about media, journalism &amp; such. What you see, read or hear is a <i>story</i>. A story told by a journalist or producer.<p>It might be plants. It might be selective editing, with certain interviews making the cut... possibly a minority from a wide selection. The choice of question. The choice of location. Etc. It&#x27;s just generally true that these are stories contrived by someone.<p>We know this intellectually, but seeing and hearing still tends to beat our skepticism. Reality TV is, to me, the perfect example of this. Even though everyone knows reality TV is fake, we usually &quot;forget&quot; that a conversation between 2 people is taking place in front of a cameraman. That is, we don&#x27;t really forget, but we also don&#x27;t interpret the conversation as we would if we actually saw the cameraman.
maeln超过 3 年前
People love micro-trottoire, you can find thousand of youtube channel doing them for country X, a lot with millions of views.<p>They are one of the form of journalism that are the most easy to manipulate (show mostly one opinion, show &quot;crazy&quot; people for one opinion and only &quot;classy&quot; people for the other, ...) and their value is therefore very questionable (plus, who care what the guy down the street thinks about complex subject he has no education to have a opinion about). Sadly, a lot of people take them at face value.
ChrisArchitect超过 3 年前
I know this blog post is niche but title could be edited to simplify what &quot;deep blue YouTuber&quot; means here. For HN readers I mean.<p>&quot;...planted pro-China advocate for &#x27;man on the street&#x27; opinions on Taiwan&quot;<p>&gt; For those who don&#x27;t know, &quot;deep blue&quot; means very pro-KMT, generally favoring Chinese identity, closer ties with China and eventual unification with China.
aneutron超过 3 年前
That&#x27;s so sad ... I used to follow the channel from its beginnings, especially when they used to cover exclusively Korea and Japan (with Kei), but since then I dropped off.<p>I&#x27;m very saddened to see it has reached this state.
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chilioil超过 3 年前
For those who are wondering why the title is unclear or misleading: this blog is extremely niche, written for people living in or interested in Taiwan. Bet you the writer behind it, who is well-known in her niche and a permanent resident of Taiwan, never thought this post would make it to this site. There have been some updates since clarifying blue&#x2F;green in the Taiwan context, so presumably she’s noticed.
chilioil超过 3 年前
For those who are wondering why the title is unclear or misleading: this blog is extremely niche, written for people living in or interested in Taiwan. Bet you the writer behind it, who is well-known in her niche and a permanent resident of Taiwan, never thought this post would make it to this site.
einpoklum超过 3 年前
Serious contender for top accidentally-misleading title for a HN story...<p>* Asian Boss - Not a boss; actually a YouTube channel.<p>* deep blue - not the chess engine, not the emotional state, not related to the US democratic party; nor to any of the films of this name; nor the songs of that name.
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richardfey超过 3 年前
Two notes:<p>- what is at the extremes, and in the middle, can be changing all the time, the view of the author is not &quot;canon&quot; in this sense<p>- why does a YouTube video have more impact than the research? Perhaps more work on scientific publication is necessary
Stevvo超过 3 年前
Not sure why they felt the need to go with a plant. The views this guy expressed are enshrined in the constitution and were the dominant ideaology until ~2000. Plenty of the older generation still think this way.
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joostshao超过 3 年前
i am chinese, i followed asian boss. just for click and ads and money , politicized emotion is also for money. they need money like every company else.
denton-scratch超过 3 年前
&gt; state plainly that you’ve gathered representatives from all segments of the Taiwanese political spectrum<p>Hang on. Why do you have to do that? When did Youtube become a place to escape from bias, propaganda and misinformation?<p>There&#x27;s jargon in this article that suggests it&#x27;s not meant for the likes of me. I clicked the &quot;deep blue&quot; link at the top, hoping to find out what the term meant (nope!) before I realised it was explained below. But KMT? Isn&#x27;t that Kuomintang? Is ROC Republic of China, or Russian Olympic Committee?
joostshao超过 3 年前
but i am unsubscribed asian boss servral days ago.
Quixotica1超过 3 年前
I was so naive :cry: Damn you Asian boss! Damn youuuuuuuuuu!
gfykvfyxgc超过 3 年前
Boom - all credibility lost - it’s just a scam, another CCP shill.<p>I actually watched this video the other day, and I remember this interviewee and I remember being surprised at how pro China the people of Taipei are.<p>Clearly Asian Boss has served its CCP masters well because I was convinced this was real and not fake CCP propaganda.
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jimmyvalmer超过 3 年前
<i>I&#x27;m far more sympathetic to the greens... but my personal views don&#x27;t matter much.</i><p>I don&#x27;t mind the first part of the sentence; that&#x27;s just editorial. The second part is weak-sauce backpedalling.<p>The repetitive moral outrage made this piece five times longer than it needed to be.
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sh4un超过 3 年前
People are surprised to find out media is usually deceptive and used for propaganda.
solidsnack9000超过 3 年前
In the USA we, too, have a &quot;deep blue fringe&quot; and a &quot;deep green fringe&quot;.
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