Firefox 96

Developer notes: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Mozilla&#x2F;Firefox&#x2F;Releases&#x2F;96" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Mozilla&#x2F;Firefox&#x2F;Rel...</a><p>Highlights:<p>* CSS color-scheme support, which was the last of the major browsers:<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;caniuse.com&#x2F;?search=color-scheme" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;caniuse.com&#x2F;?search=color-scheme</a><p>* Web Locks API: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Web&#x2F;API&#x2F;Web_Locks_API" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;docs&#x2F;Web&#x2F;API&#x2F;Web_Locks_A...</a> (Still not in Safari)

&gt;We’ve also significantly reduced main-thread load.<p>Such an important detail that deserve at least few more sentence of marketing message or explanation. But the whole release note just feels like they couldn&#x27;t be bothered anymore.

Is saving the webpage (as PDF or MHTML or ANY BLOODY FORMAT) on Android back? It&#x27;s incredible that that functionality just disappeared a few years ago and Mozilla is apparently ignoring user feedback.

Not the first time I say this but I have to say it again: Firefox: the last remaining mostly independent, maintained and reasonably popular browser.<p>Even if it were inferior in any aspect to other options, I&#x27;d still use it for the above mentioned reasons.

I&#x27;ve become conditioned to react to Firefox version announcements with &#x27;I wonder how Mozilla has screwed up the browser this time&#x27;. Either by introducing useless features or by removing options I considered useful. I hope I&#x27;m wrong this time.

I very much want &quot;reader view&quot; to have a &quot;true black&quot; mode specifically for oled phone screens. This is extremely valuable for people who want to read on their phones, because the black pixels emit no light at all. Unfortunately, dark mode isn&#x27;t true black, which means those pixels emit light, leading to more eye strain, and defeating the real purpose (IMO) of dark mode on phones.

&gt; We’ve made significant improvements in noise-suppression and auto-gain-control as well as slight improvements in echo-cancellation to provide you with a better overall experience.<p>What does that even mean?

Version 93 back in October added sponsored search suggestions on by default, [1] without even explicitly mentioning it in the release notes. [2] Is there going to be a similar surprise this time?<p>I still use Firefox as the lesser evil, and I believe there are lots of great people working on it (to whom I am thankful) but to see how the project has been run by the Mozilla Corpo-Foundation in the recent years is really disillusioning. I would love to see a change that would put a stop to the incessant stream of anti-features, while instead focusing on staying true to the original goals of the project.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;firefox-suggest" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;firefox-suggest</a><p>2. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;93.0&#x2F;releasenotes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;93.0&#x2F;releasenotes</a>

I switched to Waterfox a few months ago after infamous Proton redesign. I love Firefox in principle but hate UI redesigns for the sake of &quot;fresh&quot; look without improvements in usability.<p>Waterfox based on Firefox but with an old school compact UI and privacy features turned on by default.

I love firefox and use it avidly, but why does every firefox update keep trending on HN? I&#x27;m genuinely curious, most of these updates seem fairly minor

I&#x27;m unimpressed with these commenters griping about the UI change or sponsored this and that. I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s an honest standard you hold yourself to in any fashion and is simply not a functional way to live your life! What about your toothpaste packaging -- or <i>gasp</i> the product itself?! Things change all the time, you can be annoyed about it, of course! But accepting change is part of being a human in societies. &quot;UI changes breaking my workflow&quot; -- seriously? I don&#x27;t buy it. I wish the conversations like this would fade because it encourages bad attitudes across the board -- I can&#x27;t put my finger on it. Is it entitlement? Mozilla owes ME a good browser?

&gt; We’ve made significant improvements in noise-suppression and auto-gain-control as well as slight improvements in echo-cancellation to provide you with a better overall experience.<p>Where can I find out more about this?

I love Firefox, but I hate to see that they seem to have given in to the Chrome hegemony once again and hide the login realm message when doing HTTP basic authentication now. I still hate Chrome to this day for starting to do that, because you can no longer send people to a site protected by basic auth and expect them to know which credentials to fill in. Firefox was the last popular browsing allowing the user to read the login message provided by the server.

Been using Firefox as my daily for 5+ years, couldn’t be happier.<p>This morning various websites stopped working (really random js failures). After lots of digging around…chrome works fine… :&#x2F; Waiting on a restart which hopefully fixes things so I can delete this line.

&gt; On macOS, command-clicking links in Gmail now opens them in a new tab as expected.<p>How is this Firefox&#x27;s problem? Isn&#x27;t Gmail just a website?

I&#x27;ve been using Firefox and packaging it for portable use at PortableApps.com since before version 1.0. It&#x27;s my daily browser on Windows and Android (yay extensions). And the best alternative to Chrome&#x2F;Safari domination.

Gave up on FF a month ago because it was just too damn slow, but I didn&#x27;t want to go back to use Chrome because I don&#x27;t want to have to install a ton of addons just to have features that should be baked in the browser by now.<p>I found Vivaldi and besides really minor things that I&#x27;d like to have, it looks like the perfect browser. Highly customizable, fast, and with full access to the Chrome addons. Not going back to either of the other two for the time being.

Any chance we can have bookmarks back on a new tab page? Not &#x27;recent&#x27; bookmarks. Regular, old, cultivated bookmarks.

&gt; On macOS, command-clicking links in Gmail now opens them in a new tab as expected.<p>I wonder what happened here?

Every time a new version of Firefox comes out I try it on my XPS 13 to see if two finger scroll &amp; pan and pinch to zoom still feel janky and weird compared to every other app on my computer.<p>Yup, still weird. Still can only scroll either horizontally or vertically but not both at the same time. Pinching feels weirdly linear and zooming out still doesn&#x27;t use the mouse cursor position as a central point but just zooms from the center.<p>It&#x27;s 2022, why doesn&#x27;t Firefox just behave like every other application on my computer with scroll and pinch?

Oh crap, they broke backdrop-filter: blur. It was so beautiful, and now it doesn&#x27;t work, despite being enabled in about:config.<p>Why are you doing this to me, Firefox Developers?

Firefox development seems to be stagnating (despite pumping an insane amount of money to it &#x2F;s)<p>I wonder where all the Google money goes? definitely not in firefox, otherwise it wouldn&#x27;t have only just 3% market share<p>If they do pump money in firefox, then i guess it&#x27;s time to replace the entire team, including the people at the top of the mafia, they are clearly incompetent

I love Firefox but I can&#x27;t really use it at work because our front-end devs refuse to support it, so our application doesn&#x27;t have scrollbars - and switching between browsers sucks.<p>Use it at home and all of my personal devices though, and will not be switching any time soon.

&gt; We’ve also significantly reduced main-thread load.<p>Does anyone know the technical details here?

I&#x27;ve been using Firefox Nightly for a while now, had no discernible issues

I saw the name and thought it might be some kind of retro throwback to the 1996 version of Netscape Communicator. I was sort of looking forward to the integrated but awkward built-in mail client and newsreader.

I&#x27;m using Firefox since Phoenix 0.1 :). I&#x27;m not giving it up! (I hate the look of the &quot;new&quot; tabs though :( (looks wrong on macOS and Windows, okish on Linux).

Not much innovation in new versions anymore but I&#x27;m still excited to be running Firefox.<p>It&#x27;s something about using a browser written for privacy from day one.

When I saw the version number, I was expecting some retro nostalgic version of Firefox with Windows 95 window decorations and theming.<p>Oh well. Congrats on the release!!

&gt; Cookie Policy: Same-Site=lax by default<p>LET&#x27;S GOOOOO<p>The day web developers forget about stupid &quot;csrf protection tokens&quot; is coming \o&#x2F;

annoyingly, it breaks the Lepton UI fix: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;black7375&#x2F;Firefox-UI-Fix" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;black7375&#x2F;Firefox-UI-Fix</a>

I realize I&#x27;m just one person, but the dealbreaker for me is still the very minimal WebAuthn support. No soft tokens, and therefore no TouchID&#x2F;Hello support.<p>The difference in friction between &quot;Getting my Yubikey out of my bag&quot; and &quot;Pressing the TouchID button&quot; is enough to keep me on Chrome.

&quot;When printing, you can now choose to print only the odd&#x2F;even pages.&quot;<p>It took 96 versions to reach this feature? Meanwhile, while browsing the web the whole browser becomes unresponsive anyway, even with 32gb of ram?

Funny, I thought “Firefox 96” might be a new Vaporwave artist!

Hacker News needs to rename itself to Crybaby News.

And it broke reopen recently closed tabs.

Every time a Firefox thread pops up on HN, I read through it hoping to learn the source of the persistent vitriol, which often comes off as entitled whining.<p>I once wrote a little app for myself and (what the heck) decided to release it under the GPL in case it might be of some small use to someone else. The emails I received were split between a very small fraction with useful feedback (and even a couple patches), a group of people who merely wanted to thank me, and the rest were various levels of upset and demanding. What an eye-opener that was.<p>What am I missing? People being defensive because they use some other browser? I&#x27;m truly mystified.

At the risk of being downvoted and called out for my potential biases, I don&#x27;t really buy the &#x27;last bastion of hope&#x27; argument re: FF. I spend most my day trying to create a competitive alternative to chrome.<p>Heres my main reasoning: I trust open source and the governance and operations around it. Chromium the engine is open-source licensed permissively, way more hackable than Firefox, and has a ton of organizations work on it actively (even more if you include derivative projects like CEF and Electron)<p>The web standards are still driven via committee, theres now just a much more reliable and stable reference implementation. The economic incentives are still largely there to be a relatively good open source custodian (forking is easy and probably a better place to start anyway). If anything it feels more Linux-like in that sense too (common compatible core with lots of room for forking&#x2F;creating distros).<p>The anti-competitive practices are IMO things like Widevine and Google properties blocking non-whitelisted browsers, which we should be talking about. The chromium convergence doesn&#x27;t quite feel the same to me.

does it still crash your OS if you delete a site (domain) that you frequently visited from history?

2022 and still no native IPFS?

&gt; We’ve also significantly reduced main-thread load.<p>Good.<p>Still waiting for a message about &quot;fixed the extension API&quot;.

Still no built-in uBlock Origin (or equivalent in-house implementation compatible with uBlock-style lists) in a browser by a company that claims to care about privacy.

I have read the blog post from Mitchell Baker -&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.mozilla.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;we-need-more-than-deplatforming&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.mozilla.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;mozilla&#x2F;we-need-more-than-deplat...</a><p>I uninstalled Firefox. I don&#x27;t trust anyone who is trying hard to corner me into an echo chamber.

I wonder when it will get forced on me.<p>Was having trouble meeting some aggressive deadlines, so keeping a session going with mostly reference manuals loaded was important. But Firefox kept badgering me about 95.0.2 and providing a dialog with only Download and Dismiss options. Looked at the site and saw 95.0.2 addresses frequent crashes on c&#x2F;e&#x2F;z-series Bobcat processors running Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 which has no relevance to me. Then my Windows 10 box Firefox stopped bothering with the Download&#x2F;Dismiss dialog and started updating directly. Only Windows security allowed me to stop it.<p>It is great that Firefox developers are making progress and releasing fixes, but they should really try to make the updating process more friendly and allow people who do not have outdated processors and operating systems to get work done without being interrupted by irrelevant junk. This may seem small, but having the operating system and all major applications constantly demanding updates and restarts is getting really distracting.