Installing Every Arch Package

Now install every AUR package. Bonus points for heuristically looking for cryptominers after it's done.

&gt; Now is this useful? The short answer is no. The long answer is also no. I can think of exactly zero uses of this experiment (and I must be pretty crazy for doing it).<p>Well, at the very least it&#x27;s a very computationally expensive test that managed to catch a few packaging bugs.

Fun stuff.<p>Reminds me of one former coworker, which didn&#x27;t like me introducing FreeBSD. So he started installing all ports packages.. only to say the following morning: Look it&#x27;s broken! ( disk was obviously full and this plot was irrational to people with some common sense ).

IIRC archlinux is pretty conservative at enabling services by default after installing, so installing every package should not take too much system resource aside from disk space.<p>I’m curious about doing the same thing in Ubuntu

If you only install supposedly non-conflicting packages, and there are conflicting file locations, isn&#x27;t that a packaging bug?

Copying my comment from reddit[0]:<p>For clarity, Arch has about 10k packages, AUR has around 60k packages. I believe this post is &quot;just&quot; about the 10k.<p>&gt; I’d like to see someone do this for Ubuntu, Debian, and NixOS and watch them suffer.<p>Speaking for NixOS:<p>I have. I would sometimes do a nixpkgs-review[1] of the mass &quot;rebuild&quot; PRs for Nixpkgs[2]. Hard to know how long it took to build as I would just let it &quot;cook&quot; on my build server while I did other things. The other thing is that nix gives unique names to all built packages and utilizes &quot;maximal sharing&quot; thereof, so everything gets memo-ized[3] on future runs.<p>The scale of the official nixpkgs repository is 4-6x greater than that of Arch (AUR is the user repository). 9.6k Arch packages vs 59.4k Nixpkgs packages according to repology[4]<p>Lastly, installing packages in nix is different. Everything goes into the nix store, which is relatively &quot;inert&quot;. I don&#x27;t need to worry about &quot;hooks&quot; or stateful logic being executed affecting my system. &quot;But then how do you create services and other meaningful abstractions needed to make an OS? I thought NixOS was a distribution&quot; It is, and it&#x27;s down through NixOS modules[5] in the form of a configuration.nix. The NixOS modules can compose the verticals in my system to deliver something coherent and amazing.<p>Server used:<p><pre><code> OS: NixOS 22.05 (Quokka) x86_64 Kernel: 5.10.91 CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X (128) @ 2.900GHz Memory: 125913MiB &#x2F; 257687MiB </code></pre> [0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;linux&#x2F;comments&#x2F;shxq12&#x2F;comment&#x2F;hv5byin&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;linux&#x2F;comments&#x2F;shxq12&#x2F;comment&#x2F;hv5by...</a> [1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Mic92&#x2F;nixpkgs-review" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Mic92&#x2F;nixpkgs-review</a> [2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;NixOS&#x2F;nixpkgs&#x2F;pull&#x2F;144730#pullrequestreview-803052958" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;NixOS&#x2F;nixpkgs&#x2F;pull&#x2F;144730#pullrequestrevi...</a> [3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Memoization" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Memoization</a> [4]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;repology.org&#x2F;repositories&#x2F;statistics&#x2F;newest" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;repology.org&#x2F;repositories&#x2F;statistics&#x2F;newest</a> [5]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nixos.wiki&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Module" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nixos.wiki&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Module</a>

I didn&#x27;t really understand the fun of using Arch until I watched a few episodes of the &quot;monthly Arch install&quot; on YouTube.<p>It is very useful seeing how the &quot;pros&quot; do things, which looks substantially easier than when I try to install Arch and end up with a mess only slightly better than in this article ;)<p>Edit: the channels name is &quot;EF - Linux made simple&quot;.

<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;lQHf0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;lQHf0</a><p>Site was barely loading for me, here is a mirror.

Oh man, seeing the desktop environment selector on the login page is pretty funny.

&gt; Install every package of a different distro? In particular, I’d like to see someone do this for Ubuntu, Debian, and NixOS and watch them suffer. This was painful enough.<p>I&#x27;m not sure that would cause any suffering in NixOS other that running out of disk space; one of the big claims of nix is that it happily lets you install whatever you want without conflicts. Although they also have a somewhat different idea of what &quot;install&quot; means; you might have to still put in some work to surface as many programs as possible to a single shell&#x27;s PATH.

I&#x27;m actually shocked that this only installed 12,232 packages and uses 250GB of disk. I mean, that&#x27;s not small, but it&#x27;s actually sort of reasonable.

Learned about two new utilities today: ncdu and bashtop

I can think of a use for this.<p>If you can make a system work properly with every package installed, then you could in theory get rid of the concept of installation entirely. Use a FUSE file system to make it appear as if every package is installed, and then block any program that opens a non-installed file until the package has been downloaded and installed for real. Now you don&#x27;t have to know about packages or pacman anymore. Just do ls &#x2F;usr&#x2F;bin to see what&#x27;s available in the index, and then type in what you want and hit enter. Wait a few seconds and the program will start.<p>However, for this to work, does require that the system be stable with every package &quot;installed&quot; simultaneously, so it&#x27;d mean fixing UIs that assume only a few options are available.

For some reason I feel bad downloading too many unnecessary packages from these volunteer projects. I guess any given mirror must have enough users that even something like this is just a raindrop in the ocean, though?

This is very nicely done.<p>From the weird idea (why would that be interesting) to optimal solutions, np hard, disk issues and then an interesting result.

It was a joy to read.<p>Also, what theme is this? Looks pretty clean

Wouldn&#x27;t this lead to a dependency hell? [0]<p>&#x27;The OS: Oh you have three versions of Python, let&#x27;s use the earliest version and make your program insecure&#x27;<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dependency_hell" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dependency_hell</a>

Can anybody tell me which terminal is next to cool-retro-term (on the right) in this image? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ta180m.exozy.me&#x2F;images&#x2F;bloated-kde.webp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ta180m.exozy.me&#x2F;images&#x2F;bloated-kde.webp</a>

I might have heard of Julia, but I don&#x27;t remember. Thanks for sparking an interest, and the entertainment.

Slackware minus slackbuilds it&#x27;s like that. But contrary to arch, it doesn&#x27;t autostart any service.

now try with gentoo with no prebuilt pkg&#x27;s. the end really says a lot about arch though even if it does have edges ;).

now show us what your username directory&#x27;s dot file directories look like. I bet it&#x27;s a mess.

Please, stop using heavy images: bloated-kde.png is 3.2Mb... The image is still loading in the moment of writing...<p>Same note for the website logo: render-small.gif is 4Mb. Still loading...

The site doesn&#x27;t even load lol.