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Nyxt browser annotations beat pen and paper

166 点作者 pedrodelfino超过 3 年前

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eitland超过 3 年前
If someone wonders why old Firefox users, while still preferring new Firefox to anything else, is still annoyed then this might be a perfect example to explain it:<p>There used to be a number of extensions of this type on old Firefox. I cannot remember exactly this one, but here are a couple to prove what was possible [1]:<p>- the original Firebug which became developer tools and was cloned to every other browser was just another Firefox extension(!)<p>- an extension I used a lot was Scrapbook, which let me crawl and store websites (I used it for symfony docs back in 2007-2009 before mobile broadband was available or at least not within reach for me. It would download pages recursively according to simple, useful rules like maxrecursion, only subdirectories and only a certain domain and then rewrite every url on the page to be relative instead of absolute. You could also edit the pages locally.)<p>- Alerts (or something similar) would check web pages according to simple rules I set up and notify me if it saw significant changes.<p>[1]: somebody will probably tell that it existed too and was even better, I just didn&#x27;t know of it.
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Helmut10001超过 3 年前
Since a while, I have a no-app principle for any note taking or knowledge organization. Where _app_ is anything not directly provided by file systems or text-files (e.g. <i>.md, </i>.txt). After countless of deprecated app experiences in the last 20 years, I am happy to have switched to a more solid base, so the knowledge I produce is not lost when switching OSs, app versions, formats etc.<p>Seeing the functions of Nyxt, they look exciting and perhaps I will try this for short-term knowledge (e.g. brainstorming on a topic, where I won&#x27;t need to access this knowledge again after e.g. one year). For everything else I will stick to nested folders and markdown files, where compatibility is almost guaranteed.<p>Curious what others think about this issue.
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depingus超过 3 年前
Excellent, excellent addition. This is so useful. For people who haven&#x27;t tried another way: turns out nested folders inside more nested folders is a terrible way to organize your bookmarks!<p>I&#x27;ve been using the xBrowserSync extension to handle bookmarking across browsers; it also uses tags &#x2F; descriptions + search for organization and recall. Its made a huge difference. But Nyxt now takes things even further; locally saving a copy of the page you&#x27;re annotating. Great job!
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codazoda超过 3 年前
Having never used Nyxt, I’m curious. Is the context lost when the page changes is the future, or does Nyxt capture it in time?
gobengo超过 3 年前
Let me know if you would be interested in developing a bit more to this nyxt browser feature to support persisting these extensions via the W3C Web Annotation protocol - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;TR&#x2F;annotation-protocol&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;TR&#x2F;annotation-protocol&#x2F;</a><p>I&#x27;ve been wanting to write an implementation of an annotation server, and it&#x27;d be cool to immediately interoperate with nyxt browser. Then I&#x27;d work on the same server supporting most other browsers (e.g. Firefox) via WebExtension API building on my old <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;gobengo&#x2F;web-annotation-extension" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;gobengo&#x2F;web-annotation-extension</a>
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walterbell超过 3 年前
Doug Engelbart&#x27;s work on augmentation&#x2F;annotation from 1960&#x27;s through early 2000&#x27;s, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dougengelbart.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;view&#x2F;358&#x2F;000&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dougengelbart.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;view&#x2F;358&#x2F;000&#x2F;</a>
mgirkins超过 3 年前
I am currently building a similar tool to this called Conote (conote.page). Conote lets you highlight and annotate by simply pasting in a url instead of downloading a browser. You can therefore have discussions with others based on your annotations by sharing the link with them.<p>Conote is currently in early beta and there are a lot of rough edges eg. it currently only supports Chrome and Firefox desktop to create highlights (soon to be fixed). I have plans to add much better knowledge retrieval searches etc but for now am focusing on making the core ability to add context to your thoughts.<p>I welcome any feedback you might have :)
joeman1000超过 3 年前
I’m getting excited thinking of the possibilities of combining this with org-roam…
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bovermyer超过 3 年前
If I take notes on something I read on the web, it goes into either my Obsidian offline notes or into the knowledge base on my website.<p>I assume that any given useful website may be gone in a month. This may be a holdover thought pattern from the 90s, but for me if it&#x27;s worth knowing, it&#x27;s worth writing down in my own system - which is app-independent, and could be printed from the source files without loss of information, should that become necessary.<p>Oh, and if the page author is here - please, reduce the resolution of that painting image. It&#x27;s unnecessarily massive.
1MachineElf超过 3 年前
&gt;Later, the tags will be useful because Nyxt also offers features related to information retrieval. Hence, the user can search or filter their highlight and comments.<p>Will future Nyxt enter the zettelkasten space?
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hassancf超过 3 年前
My process is:<p>1-Store the information very quickly, without typing any additional text, so no tags and no annotations<p>2-Retrieve the information based on some word I might remember from the previously saved text or based on an approximate date<p>#1 happens a lot so I don’t want to spend time annotating or tagging information (ie click save and forget…)<p>#2 is much less frequent and when I really need the info, I can spend a bit of time to craft my criteria for a search<p>Making #1 laborious or painful is a nonstarter for me. Anyone else on the same boat?
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Meph504超过 3 年前
Clip to onenote, and onenote in general is a pretty amazing tool, it allows for everything I saw in the demo video, but has a interface that makes it much quicker to accomplish those task.<p>If you have access to the office 365 ecosystem, I would recommend checking it out (which that said, I strongly discourage the use of the native window10 version of oneNote, its a dumpster fire on wheels)
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK超过 3 年前
But the links will change&#x2F;go extinct in a few years. You need to copy the content locally if you want to preserve the knowledge.
culi超过 3 年前
Something I&#x27;ve always wanted to work on was a browser extension that allowed things like this to happen collaboratively. There&#x27;s stuff like PeerLibrary[0] that lets you annotate things as a group, but it&#x27;s limited to publications and things you upload. Nyxt seems to meet what I want but lacks the collaborative aspect I&#x27;m looking for.<p>There&#x27;s a couple of Browser extensions that have sorta tried to accomplish this before. Epiverse[1] seems to be the most polished one so far. It originally intended to allow any user to comment on any webpage. But it found that without existing content, few found it useful. So eventually the creator just parsed to see if the webpage was posted on Reddit or Hackernews. The original purpose of it ended up being too expensive to host so it ended up just becoming a HN&#x2F;Reddit parser. Which, tbh, is basically what I want to build at this point. I&#x27;d love to contribute to the project, but I don&#x27;t have much time and it&#x27;s closed source<p>The other similar extensions also just parse HN&#x2F;Reddit like Newsit[2] (which is open-source) and Thredd[3] (which only parses Reddit). My only real addition to this is that I&#x27;d like to include the ability to parse more than just Reddit and HN. I wanna create a discussion aggregator. There&#x27;s similar sites like Lobste.rs and Lemmy.ml that could also be parsed, but obviously that&#x27;s not the full extent of where discussions happen around a webpage.<p>I don&#x27;t think I have it figured out, and I don&#x27;t know if anyone ever will, but I think there&#x27;s a lot to gain if someone is able to someday harness that feeling that you get when you read something really good or find something really cool and wanna see how others responded<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;peerlibrary.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;peerlibrary.org&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;epiverse.co&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;epiverse.co&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;newsit.benwinding.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;newsit.benwinding.com&#x2F;</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thredd.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thredd.io&#x2F;</a>
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culi超过 3 年前
See also: PeerLibrary[0]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;peerlibrary.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;peerlibrary.org&#x2F;</a>
adamddev1超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m curious to try out Nyxt. But I see it&#x27;s not built on Chromium or anything like that. How robust is it at handling random edge cases on the web? Does anybody run into issues where you need to go back to another browser on some pages? (I face this with Firefox even, unfortunately)
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erwincoumans超过 3 年前
When I read pdfs, I upload them to Google Drive and make annotations there. For other stuff, likes on HN and Twitter or snippets emailed to myself makes info persistent. If Nyxt was a browser plugin, I would try it out.
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narrator超过 3 年前
Why not use mediawiki for this kind of thing? Wikipedia will never die, so the software will always be around.