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The Big Mac index: Our interactive currency comparison tool

158 点作者 pretext超过 3 年前

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JohnJamesRambo超过 3 年前
Thought it was going to be this one, which I enjoy using a lot and find useful for getting the big picture.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;inflationchart.com&#x2F;cpi-in-bigmac" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;inflationchart.com&#x2F;cpi-in-bigmac</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;inflationchart.com&#x2F;spx-in-bigmac" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;inflationchart.com&#x2F;spx-in-bigmac</a><p>In the 70s you could work minimum wage for an hour and afford three Big Macs. Now you have to work almost an hour to afford one Big Mac.:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;inflationchart.com&#x2F;minwage-in-bigmac" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;inflationchart.com&#x2F;minwage-in-bigmac</a>
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probably_wrong超过 3 年前
I used this index two days ago: my siblings and I want to buy a present as a group, but we are split across multiple countries and it wasn&#x27;t clear how to make a fair split. We ended up agreeing that everyone would contribute their local equivalent of ~7.3 Big Macs.<p>The only minor correction needed was that the index lists the official dollar exchange price for some currencies while the real price is not even close to that, but that&#x27;s not the index fault.
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Jarlakxen超过 3 年前
In Argentina one of the biggest issues with this Index is that if they use the official exchange I may look like that the Peso is way stronger than what actually it is. We have a lot of restrictions that prohibit Argentinian&#x27;s from getting Dollars a that exchange ( only 200 USD a months ). It should be more fair to use the &quot;Dollar Libre&quot; (kind of dollars of the black market) as the exchange rate, which is double the official.
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mohanmcgeek超过 3 年前
The original idea used to be that you could use the price of big Mac instead of comparing every aspect of consumer spend to calculate PPP.<p>But clearly that isn&#x27;t working anymore. Indian PPP rate which tech companies use to adjust pay is around 17-20 INR&#x2F;USD. But this chart implies that the number is close to 35 INR&#x2F;USD<p>The numbers from numbeo which uses all the aspects of consumer spend gets a ratio closer to the one used by tech companies<p>Maybe the original criticism of big Mac index still stands: there are cheaper burgers in other countries and they should be comparing against that.
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forinti超过 3 年前
One caveat about this index is that is does not consider the fact that Macdonald&#x27;s has different types of customers in different countries.<p>In rich countries, it targets lower income strata.<p>In the third world, it targets middle and upper middle class. You can get much cheaper local food (and probably more nutritious food) on the streets.<p>Therefore, Macdonald&#x27;s is relatively more expensive in poorer countries.
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petercooper超过 3 年前
I don&#x27;t see how this really works any more because a Big Mac is different in different countries. It&#x27;s not an &quot;identical&quot; product being compared.<p>You can use McDonald&#x27;s own local nutrition calculators to confirm this. A Big Mac in the US is 550 calories, yet 508 calories in the UK (522 in Russia and a mere 498 in Switzerland, for comparison). Is it factored into the index that British fast food fans are getting 7.6% less burger as well as paying more than a US consumer?
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amai超过 3 年前
&quot;This suggests the rouble is 52.1% undervalued.&quot;<p>It could also suggest Russian people don&#x27;t like Big Macs as much as US Americans do, which I can confirm. A price reflects not only exchange rates but also supply and demand.
sgerenser超过 3 年前
It says a Big Mac in the U.S. is $5.81 which sounded high. Popped open the McDonalds app and sure enough I can get one for $4.39 plus a free medium fry. Prices must not be uniform across the U.S., but I find it hard to believe the <i>average</i> is $5.81.
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neilwilson超过 3 年前
&quot;In 2019, there was an estimated $1,650 trillion in foreign exchange market activity (Bank for International Settlements 2019, p.3).6 In that same year, world trade in goods and services was $24.96 trillion (World Trade Organization 2020, p.17). This is 1.5% of total currency market activity. Even allowing for multiple covering transactions by various parties and multiplying this by a factor of five, it still yields a total of only $124.8 trillion, or 7.5% of total foreign exchange volume. If we assumed that the appropriate factor were ten, which seems very unlikely, this does not help markedly as it only gets us to 15% of the market. In other words, purchasing power parity is an explanation of currency prices that is based on something in the range of 1.5% to 15% of actual foreign exchange market activity. Even supporters of purchasing power parity admit that it only holds in the long run – a period of time they say is equivalent to years or even decades. The more likely answer is that it does not hold at all. Because the factors that determine the demand for goods and services differ significantly from those that drive financial capital flows, purchasing power parity cannot possibly explain real-world currency movements.&quot;<p>Harvey, John. (2021). Modern Monetary Theory, the United Kingdom, and Pound Sterling. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.researchgate.net&#x2F;publication&#x2F;351764940_Modern_Monetary_Theory_the_United_Kingdom_and_Pound_Sterling" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.researchgate.net&#x2F;publication&#x2F;351764940_Modern_Mo...</a>
ljm超过 3 年前
If you take the chart in the article at face value, where USD is the base currency and almost every other currency is undervalued in comparison... doesn&#x27;t that mean that USD is overvalued in those terms? Or that USD derives its value from other currencies depending on it?<p>If you calculated an equilibrium of sorts then USD would be worth less. And you&#x27;d have to separate the currencies that are based on USD as the standard and not gold or some other resource... right?
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bko超过 3 年前
I for one am shocked a Big Mac costs $5.81 in the United States. It&#x27;s been too long I guess but I remember the meals going for $5-6 when I was a kid. And that&#x27;s national average too, not an expensive metro area.<p>Surely there were advances in production and logistics that would have lowered the &quot;real&quot; cost of McDonalds delivering a Big Mac, so all else being equal we would expect the price to drop over time. But monetary inflation makes up for it and then some.
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benbristow超过 3 年前
In the UK the ongoing meme is the price of a Freddo - a small frog shaped piece of milk chocolate by Cadbury&#x27;s. When I was a kid they were 10p (0.14$), now they&#x27;re around the 26p (0.35$) mark.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vouchercloud.com&#x2F;resources&#x2F;the-freddo-index" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vouchercloud.com&#x2F;resources&#x2F;the-freddo-index</a>
joshspankit超过 3 年前
In addition to other’s great points, this is skewed because there are countries where the Big Mac’s cost is highly subsidized by government (such as in the US with dairy and beef.)<p>&gt; The U.S government spends $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, but only 0.04 percent of that (i.e., $17 million) each year to subsidize fruits and vegetables. A $5 Big Mac would cost $13 if the retail price included hidden expenses that meat producers offload onto society.<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scet.berkeley.edu&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;CopyofFINALSavingThePlanetSustainableMeatAlternatives.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scet.berkeley.edu&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;CopyofFINALSavi...</a>
kingcharles超过 3 年前
My Qatari girlfriend to me the other day: &quot;I just found out you can get a Big Mac with BEEF in it! What sort of weird shit is that?&quot;<p>All she has ever eaten: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcdonalds.com&#x2F;qa&#x2F;en-qa&#x2F;product&#x2F;chicken-mac.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mcdonalds.com&#x2F;qa&#x2F;en-qa&#x2F;product&#x2F;chicken-mac.html</a>
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tasha0663超过 3 年前
So many comments here miss the tone with which The Economist presents this. It encapsulates some intriguing truth about the HN commentariat that the disclaimers are so willfully ignored.<p>&gt; The Big Mac index was invented by The Economist in 1986 as a <i>lighthearted guide</i>...<p>&gt; Burgernomics was <i>never intended as a precise gauge of currency misalignment</i>, merely a tool to make exchange-rate theory more digestible.<p>And before you go and dissect the last sentence as E claiming it has actual use, stop and look both ways for puns.
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aphroz超过 3 年前
It&#x27;s maybe 20% more expensive in Switzerland but it tastes better.
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bjarneh超过 3 年前
I like that other &quot;Big Mac index&quot; where they compare how long an employee has to work at McDonald&#x27;s in different countries to buy a Big Mac there; that at least give you some idea of which economy you&#x27;d want to live in.
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arcticbull超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m curious how the Hong Kong Dollar can be &quot;undervalued&quot; with respect to the US Dollar by 51.4% when it&#x27;s pegged 1:7.8<p>PPP doesn&#x27;t really mean that a currency is &#x27;undervalued&#x27; or &#x27;overvalued&#x27; with respect to one another, just that local efficiencies or inefficiencies make procurement of a basket of goods relatively more or less expensive there relative to tradeable goods no?
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yobbo超过 3 年前
The big mac index is flawed in so many ways.<p>Labour and tax components of the costs are wildly different in countries. Raw materials might be almost irrelevant in some places. Because of this, the quality of the dining experiences are wildly different, because each restaurant owner needs to justify their costs. Add to this the effect of competition, which itself depends on local markets.
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throwaway4good超过 3 年前
Something crazy is going on - compare 2022 with 2012.<p>I remember going to the US and thinking it was cheap.
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nojs超过 3 年前
McDonald’s positions itself very differently in different countries and the quality of Big Macs varies a lot. In some places McDonald’s is pretty good, and in others it’s <i>really</i> bad. You’re not comparing the same thing.
pdenton超过 3 年前
Is the article hard to read for anyone else? The font looks terrible with jaggies everywhere. After removing &quot;Charter&quot; from the variable &quot;--ds-type-system-serif&quot; on :root, the page became legible. FF96 on void.
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whoomp12342超过 3 年前
The problem with the big mac index is that it assumes people still like mcdonalds.
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digitcatphd超过 3 年前
I think the moral of the story is I need to go to Russia and get a Big Mac
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genericacct超过 3 年前
I was thinking about the index a few days ago, I&#x27;d like to see what it looks like using the price of aspirin instead of a burger.
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excalibur超过 3 年前
Is it really the case that nearly every other currency is undervalued? Seems much more plausible that USD is overvalued
dghughes超过 3 年前
In Canada we&#x27;d have to convert Big Mac to the cost of how many Tim&#x27;s double-doubles for it to make sense.
neonate超过 3 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;UX9Ln" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;UX9Ln</a>
RickJWagner超过 3 年前
Flawed data. Big Macs are currently 2 for $6 at my local store. Woohoo!
throwaway22032超过 3 年前
Amusing that Russia has the world&#x27;s cheapest Big Mac.<p>Sorry Lenin, old chap.
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whatgoodisaroad超过 3 年前
Is this not more of a measure of beef related farm subsidies?