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Less Than 10% of Firefox Users on Linux Are Running Wayland

53 点作者 Tajnymag超过 3 年前

20 条评论

di4na超过 3 年前
Worth pointing out that for the longest time, Firefox on Wayland was borking the clipboards regularly, forcing a restart of the whole stack (at least on Gnome).<p>That pushed a lot of people to use the X versin of firefox, even if on Wayland.<p>It seems to be fixed for me now but eh... who knows
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BiteCode_dev超过 3 年前
I really hope wayland doesn&#x27;t become to x11 what IPV6 is to ipv4.<p>Because after so many years, a lot of the ecosystem hasn&#x27;t moved, or is even not compatible with it. Good multi display support is missing, and some games don&#x27;t render well.<p>I want it to succeed, and the project has been progressing non-stop, but it does show how much time and energy such an endeavor takes. I was expecting to be able to use it for years and years.<p>See also: BTRFS
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turbinerneiter超过 3 年前
Doesn&#x27;t the graph show the opposite? According to the legend the green shows Wayland which is by far the biggest area?<p>Have I forgotten how to read graphs?<p>Edit: Graph starts at 90%, oh how I hate when they do that.
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allisdust超过 3 年前
Wayland still doesn&#x27;t handle fractional scaling as well as x11 (at least for my laptop) and the text blurriness with fractional scaling is really a show stopper. X11 just works though. Hopefully they will iron out the last of the bugs and this 10 year project will finally achieve its potential.
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eternityforest超过 3 年前
I will run Wayland when it is built into Linux Mint. When they have fixed screenshots and color pickers and network transparency and any other hidden things I don&#x27;t know about.
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teekert超过 3 年前
I always ran wayland (since I got &quot;Ubuntu on Wayland&quot; at the login available), but now my son wants to play minecraft with me so I have to use X. It&#x27;s just this 1 thing that keeps me off it now. I imaging what the &quot;Why Wayland? Will at some point flip to &quot;Why not Wayland?&quot; When really (almost) everything works.
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zwog超过 3 年前
I found no suitable replacement for demnu&#x2F;j4-menu on Wayland, so I stick to using Gnome on X. It&#x27;s that simple.<p>I don&#x27;t know much about window servers and have no idea why I should use Wayland instead of X.
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the_duke超过 3 年前
It&#x27;s notable that Firefox performance is <i>a lot better</i> on Wayland. Depending on the compositor of course.<p>Which leads to a big misconception that many users have, even here on Hackernews.<p>&quot;Wayland doesn&#x27;t support Y&quot; or &quot;Z doesn&#x27;t work on Wayland&quot; statements only make very limited sense.<p>Wayland is just a protocol. Unlike X, there is no shared codebase that is used by all implementations - aka compositors.<p>There are several important compositors, all with their own individual quirks. Which is part of the problem...
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kwhitefoot超过 3 年前
Why should a Linux user care whether the display uses X11 or Wayland?<p>Is there a summary somewhere that explains why, or if, it would benefit me to put any effort into switching?
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vidarh超过 3 年前
The caveats given are pretty major. Anyone know which distributions disable telemetry and whether they default to X11 or Wayland?
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mateuszf超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m not sure what do the number mean.<p>Percentage of users running Firefox using Wayland WM&#x2F;DE or percentage of users running Firefox with enabled Wayland support?<p>These numbers in theory could be dramatically different, as Firefox with enabled Wayland is not a default yet.
roshansingh超过 3 年前
I was not able to share screen on Wayland so had to switch to X.
anotherhue超过 3 年前
Sway &amp; Firefox-wl work pretty great on nixos
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the8472超过 3 年前
My FF-related reason for using X11 that drag&amp;drop from FF to Nemo doesn&#x27;t work under sway but does work under i3. Trying several combinations of environment variables to switch between native and xwayland mode didn&#x27;t make a difference.<p>The second reason, not related to FF, is that wine-wayland is still experimental.
tyingq超过 3 年前
The developer channel version of WSL2 comes with Wayland, which might help push adoption a bit. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;microsoft&#x2F;wslg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;microsoft&#x2F;wslg</a>
GekkePrutser超过 3 年前
Be aware that some other unixes are often corned as Linux.<p>I use Firefox on FreeBSD and most third party websites identify me as Linux (except Firefox itself). I can&#x27;t run Wayland because KDE on Wayland is currently broken on FreeBSD :)
sylware超过 3 年前
It is like windoz, the default install on nearly all sold PCs: because x11 is the default for firefox on mainstream distros.<p>What to do: eat the bullet and change the default of the mainstream distros.
giords超过 3 年前
Wayland is the new IPv6
mateuszf超过 3 年前
By the way, assuming I&#x27;m running Wayland - anyone maybe knows a way for me to check if any of the apps I have&#x2F;run are using X11?
Shadonototra超过 3 年前
Unity 8 and MIR died for this...