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Reasons to Abandon Spotify That Have Nothing to Do with Joe Rogan

25 点作者 Nrbelex超过 3 年前

13 条评论

zirobi超过 3 年前
&gt; I love that people are looking for alternatives to Spotify and I don’t know how to explain to them that it has never been ethical or sustainable to expect to have unfettered access to the entire history of recorded music for $10&#x2F;month.<p>— Ross Grady, missing the point.<p>This has nothing to do with Spotify and everything to do with the market for streaming services.<p>It takes an unbelievable amount of money to operate a service like Spotify and consumers have not yet demonstrating a willingness to pay more than $10-15&#x2F;mo for pretty much any mainstream digital subscription.<p>That leaves a very small amount for artists. Which is wrong. But what are you going to do?<p>Either customers pay more, which they won&#x27;t.<p>Or artists leave Spotify for platforms that pay them more in hope the increased cut compensates for significantly lower volume, which is unlikely.<p>Or someone finds a way to run a global streaming service at such a reduced cost that some savings can be passed onto the artists, which would&#x27;ve happened already if possible.
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say_it_as_it_is超过 3 年前
I abandoned The New Yorker a while ago. The entire magazine is one big woke circle jerk. These are people who get high off of smelling their own farts. The bias is everywhere in the magazine. Their long-form investigative work hasn&#x27;t produced something interesting in some time. They must have lost their talented writers and editors in a woke war.<p>So, I don&#x27;t really care what someone from the New Yorker has to say about Joe Rogan, as they join the cancel crusade.<p>If anything, I may sign up for Spotify for standing up against cancel culture, and I won&#x27;t be subscribing to the New Yorker at time soon.
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throwjs51009超过 3 年前
Spotify alternatives:<p>Tidal <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tidal.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tidal.com&#x2F;</a><p>Deezer <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deezer.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deezer.com&#x2F;</a><p>Bandcamp <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bandcamp.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bandcamp.com&#x2F;</a><p>Jango <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jango.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jango.com&#x2F;</a><p>Radio Paradise <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;radioparadise.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;radioparadise.com&#x2F;</a><p>Qobuz <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.qobuz.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.qobuz.com&#x2F;</a><p>Pandora <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pandora.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pandora.com&#x2F;</a>
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jeegsy超过 3 年前
Nothing to do with Rogan but then goes on to discuss Rogan quite a bit with a generous helping of other Artists who have protested Rogan. The hubris on this person. He actually believes that he can talk people out of Spotify!
srean超过 3 年前
What&#x27;s wrong with carrying your own music on your own storage device ? With appropriate backups of course and they neednt be mutually exclusive. The article does bring up this point of view towards the end.<p>I dislike the possibility, however remote, of being cut off from my music at the whim of a service provider or the government. I come from India, the current government is ever so trigger happy about cutting off the internet and&#x2F;or web sites because someone said something that did not show them in the best of lights.
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throwaway22032超过 3 年前
The idea that it&#x27;s &quot;too much&quot; to expect all of the music for $10 is strange because there are legal ways to do that right now.<p>I can just go on YouTube, turn an ad blocker on, and there we go. It&#x27;s not curated, there&#x27;s no playlist, there&#x27;s no buffering on my phone when I go underground, the general experience is worse, etc. But that&#x27;s literally free. Without the ad blocker, it&#x27;s ad supported, okay, so it&#x27;s like default spotify without paying.<p>But it&#x27;s there and it has been for like, ten years now. In fact I find that YT has loads of stuff that&#x27;s not on Spotify at all.<p>If you&#x27;re disappointed that it turns out that most people ended up not paying for music once they had the choice, fine. But like, the idea that it&#x27;s somehow unsustainable is obviously wrong, and calling it unethical is pretty opinionated (how is it unethical for me to click on a Beatles video when they&#x27;re all either dead or fantastically wealthy?)<p>I&#x27;ve been considering cancelling Spotify for ages, I&#x27;ve been on and off. The only thing that keeps me using the platform is that it&#x27;s more convenient - it&#x27;s like buying a coffee at the motorway services instead of making one from a bag of coffee, a cafetiere, and a kettle in my car. I can do it, I just don&#x27;t want to sometimes.
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pjmlp超过 3 年前
Maybe I am too old fashioned, buying music direct from musicians, after concert gigs, and making my own play lists.<p>No need to abandon something I never bothered with in first place.
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rocketChair超过 3 年前
Love Spotify myself. They&#x27;ve done what none of the competitors have managed in my opinion.<p>Good free-tier, amazing premium service and price, an unbelievably large collection of artists and music, strong privacy protection without the need to provide credit card details (for free tier) or mobile phone numbers, in a super-polished and easy to use package, without all the terrible data-collection.<p>They really have become the kings of music streaming.
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sokoloff超过 3 年前
&gt; Spotify, like Facebook and Amazon, has the advantage of being odiously indispensable. No matter how much people grow to hate the service, they cannot envision life without it.<p>Are you kidding me? If you don’t like something about Spotify, switch to Amazon or Apple music, Pandora, Tidal, Qobuz, Deezer, or a dozen others.<p>This seems like “As much as I dislike Bing, I cannot envision life without it!”
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floatboth超过 3 年前
Spotify was not available in my country for ages and it insists on using DRM on the web so I never signed up.<p>YouTube Music is great – no DRM, one subscription for music and getting rid of YouTube ads (while supporting your favorite video creators far better than ads do).
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j7ake超过 3 年前
Maybe the solution is to use streaming as a discovery service but still encourage people to buy albums directly from the musician.<p>The musician can add value to the albums by making it a beautiful package with lots of extra details and behind the scenes of the music.<p>For example: a box set<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;us-store.deutschegrammophon.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;hilary-hahn-paris-lp-boxset" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;us-store.deutschegrammophon.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;hilary-hahn...</a>
secretsatan超过 3 年前
I&#x27;ve never signed up to a music streaming service, I distrust them immensely, I don&#x27;t like the idea of algos picking my music, especially not, if you like that, then you&#x27;ll like this, I think it&#x27;s recipe for making everything sound the same<p>I also don&#x27;t like the amount they payout to artists. I&#x27;m no saint, I used to be on napster and limewire, but now having a decent paying job, I buy albums again from services like Bleep. As I like a lot of indie stuff, I think it&#x27;s important they get a decent cut because I don&#x27;t think many of them are selling in the millions.<p>I still don&#x27;t feel much guilt pirating the odd movie, especially as it&#x27;s no longer possible to sign up for a single provider, I now have to sign up for multiple services. And twenty bucks is too damn much for a single VOD<p>But the media I use most, mostly video games and music, I really don&#x27;t mind paying.
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edmcnulty101超过 3 年前
With torrent sites existing, the real value of music recordings is zero dollars.<p>Another way to look at Spotify is actually trying to recover some of this money for artists.
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