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Show HN: Create your own prediction market in two minutes

84 点作者 akrolsmir超过 3 年前
Hi HN! Excited to show off the project we&#x27;ve been working on for the last couple months. We started with an idea for a crazy twist on prediction markets: You come up with a question for traders to predict, and then decide the outcome yourself.<p>For example, you could create a market on “Will my date with [X] go well?” Anyone can bet on it, and the bets create a forecast on the chance your date goes well. After the date is over, you get to judge the result and reward the traders who picked the correct side.<p>There are so many ways for this mechanism to go wrong: the creator of the market can be dishonest in deciding the outcome, or you may just disagree with their resolution, with no recourse. Nevertheless, we pitched user-created prediction markets in a grant proposal to the blog Astral Codex Ten, and somehow we won!<p>Since then, it’s been an exciting two months of us hacking away to realize this idea, and now we’re happy to announce the official launch of Manifold Markets! We’ve gotten so much support from early users who are just as passionate about prediction markets as we are.<p>You might ask: Is there a reason to create a prediction market, and not a Twitter poll? Are outcomes really that different from a simple person-by-person vote?<p>We believe so. The magic driving prediction markets is accountability. When wagering a scarce currency, those proven right live on to make future bets, whereas those with less-savvy bets have their influence diminished. Prediction markets succeed because they reward accuracy, and that makes all the difference!<p>Our goal is to make prediction markets an order of magnitude easier for you to create and share. It should be as frictionless as a Twitter poll. As part of that philosophy, we’re launching with a play money currency, which we believe is just as fun and predictive.<p>We’ve already built up a passionate community of predictors and market creators, including writers like Richard Hanania and James Medlock, who have predicted everything from CDC recommendations to newsletter subscriptions to fatal shark attacks.<p>There’s so much unexplored space to ask questions and get valuable forecasts. For example, with conditional markets, you can create several related markets that help you make a choice based on which has the highest likelihood of success!<p>Let us know if you have any thoughts or suggestions; otherwise, looking forward to what markets you create!

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jahooma超过 3 年前
Today&#x27;s the launch day for Manifold Markets, you can read our announcement here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;manifoldmarkets.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;above-the-fold-manifold-is-ready" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;manifoldmarkets.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;above-the-fold-manifo...</a><p>We&#x27;ve been working for the past two months to make the easiest-to-use prediction markets! We want to make creating and trading in prediction markets as frictionless as using Twitter polls.<p>It&#x27;s been a very exciting and fulfilling project to work on given the dedicated fans of prediction markets that have already joined our community.<p>Happy to hear any feedback you have on our site!
rank0超过 3 年前
What is the currency used for the bets? Can I cash out back to USD? Why not just use actual money or even stable coins?<p>The idea is cool, but I’m never gonna put money into something where there’s ZERO documentation for what happens to my money once it’s in your pocket.
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ALittleLight超过 3 年前
One thing this makes me think of is &quot;Oracles&quot; that could potentially decide a market. Someone could write an oracle, and open source the code, and MM could then run the oracle for the lifetime of the market.<p>The oracle would be responsible for resolving the bet and would turn an ambiguous statement into a well defined one. i.e. What you are betting on, ultimately, is how the linked oracle will resolve the bet, and everyone can see the code.<p>The first bet I see is about Russia invading Ukraine. We could have an oracle that checks Wikipedia&#x27;s list of Russian military engagements every day and if there is a new one in Ukraine and it stays for five days that might be a sign. Another sign might be scraping New York Times headlines for a list of terms you might expect to see in an invasion. Maybe there&#x27;s a website tracking Russian troop deployments, or Russian flagged planes and ships and those could become signals. Then, the oracle collects and judges based on its signals.
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the_cat_kittles超过 3 年前
fun, but &quot;Our goal is to make prediction markets an order of magnitude easier for you to create and share&quot; is a lie. your goal is to take a % lol
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only4here超过 3 年前
One complaint is that it requires a Google account to sign up. It does make sense why this is a feature, but it&#x27;s still kind of annoying.
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wwweston超过 3 年前
&gt; you could create a market on “Will my date with [X] go well?”<p>Why do I get the feeling one of the underlying key variables here would be how likely [X] is to like prediction markets?
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noduerme超过 3 年前
The twin facts that the market maker gets to decide the outcome, and there being no binding requirements for how something closes, makes it an exercise in absurdity. By leaving the decision up to them, you&#x27;ve made it impossible to measure the variables independently, so you&#x27;ll never even be able to draw any useful opinion data out of it. It&#x27;s not that hard to write a trading platform. I thought of an open prediction platform like this in 2011. The really hard part would be to write a framework in business logic and code that lets people design and resolve prediction contracts in a clear, enforceable, stable way. I&#x27;d personally be embarrassed if I wasted time building something like this just to say bluntly that there are a hundred ways it could be taken advantage of. If that&#x27;s the case, you&#x27;ve thought just enough about the real problem to know that you can&#x27;t solve it, and you want points for coding the easy part? Garbage.
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morelandjs超过 3 年前
I’ve wondered, instead of betting on “truth” why not bet on the outcome of a webscraping query, where the code is open source?<p>Example, I publish some code that scrapes the outcome of an upcoming sports game. It returns a True&#x2F;False payload.<p>Bettors can examine my source code and see the exact time when it will be run. They can then place their bet on the code itself.<p>Sure the code could point to a bad actor and someone could pull the rug, but you could also take the consensus result from a few trusted sources, e.g. Google sports, ESPN, etc.
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sundarurfriend超过 3 年前
This sounds like (hopefully a better executed) PredictionBook. [1] Definitely worth doing, as PredictionBook&#x27;s UI leaves a lot to be desired, but I was confused at first seeing it described as a totally new concept.<p>Where can I follow updates on it so that I can join when there&#x27;s Email signup? Will you be posting to the Substack for future updates too?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;predictionbook.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;predictionbook.com&#x2F;</a>
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ReaLNero超过 3 年前
In trading, there are penalties for insider trading. In sports betting, teams get disqualified for match fixing. So there is protection against adverse selection. What about here? If the bet is &quot;Will Apple air an ad at the Super Bowl,&quot; am I violating the rules by working at Apple? You really need users to trust that everyone&#x27;s on an even playing field.
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newman8r超过 3 年前
At first glance I thought this was a self-hosted thing, which would be really great. Still a fun idea though, best of luck. Someone should do an open source version of this, if it&#x27;s not already,
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ivoras超过 3 年前
Hmmm, looks like a less feature-full take on Metaculus <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.metaculus.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.metaculus.com&#x2F;</a>
netman21超过 3 年前
This is great! Placed a couple of wagers and created a market.<p>Have you read Shockwave Rider? John Brunner envisioned a network that placed odds on everything, just like this.
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kurtreed超过 3 年前
Cool, I might use this, thanks!
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realty_geek超过 3 年前
Could be interesting for the real estate sector
ReaLNero超过 3 年前
How similar is this to Kalshi?
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BLanen超过 3 年前
What about no.<p>I absolutely cannot hate this project more.
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