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Ethereum is a dark forest (2020)

40 点作者 maxutility超过 3 年前

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cowlby超过 3 年前
Ethereum does to coding what wagering real money does to a friendly game of Poker<p>Expected value (EV) changes behavior significantly.<p>I&#x27;m skeptical too but didn&#x27;t let that keep me from learning Solidity and the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM). This dark forest is like having a red team looking at your code 24&#x2F;7. I feel like I learned some novel things from it.
thejohnconway超过 3 年前
Then why are we building it? To fleece people who are not as smart? All this just seems insane to me.
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ronyfadel超过 3 年前
Note (for dang): it&#x27;s &quot;Ethereum&quot;, not &quot;Etherium&quot;
jacoblambda超过 3 年前
I&#x27;m curious whether you could eliminate or at least mitigate this &quot;dark forest&quot; environment with privacy preserving transactions?<p>There are privacy preserving smart contract schemes (see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eprint.iacr.org&#x2F;2020&#x2F;543" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eprint.iacr.org&#x2F;2020&#x2F;543</a> for one example) however to my knowledge few if any have ever been implemented&#x2F;utilised at scale.<p>At least in theory this should eliminate or at least greatly mitigate the opportunity for MEV since the actions taken and the results are opaque. In reality however I&#x27;m not sure and I am absolutely not qualified to answer.
dang超过 3 年前
Discussed at the time:<p><i>Ethereum Is a Dark Forest</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24308588" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24308588</a> - Aug 2020 (447 comments)
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Traster超过 3 年前
Yeah this has been posted before, and the message is always the same: If you want to trade in ethereum, just remember that you&#x27;re dealing with a technology created by psychopaths. The Dark Forest wasn&#x27;t somewhere you went for a walk.
nefitty超过 3 年前
Is the benefit of Ethereum really larger than the value these intelligent people could be creating in non-crypto industries? I see the allure. They&#x27;re super hard, super high-stakes problems. Is there really no other industry that provides this level of flow and excitement for these researchers?
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xmly超过 3 年前
Ethereum Layer1 should be only for storing meta data and provide trust and arbitration when necessary.
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