Textmate 2 - Alpha this year

Hell must be freezing over.<p>10 June 2011: Duke Nukem Forever released - <a href="https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Development_of_Duke_Nukem_Forever#Gearbox_revival.2C_2010.E2.80.932011" rel="nofollow">https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Development_o...</a><p>12 July 2011: PuTTY 0.61 released - <a href="http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.ht...</a><p>20 July 2011: "Signs of life from GNU Hurd" - <a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/452296/" rel="nofollow">https://lwn.net/Articles/452296/</a><p>28 July 2011: GNU Emacs developers discover that Emacs has been violating the GPL since 2009 - <a href="https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-07/msg01155.html" rel="nofollow">https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-07/msg01...</a><p>26 September 2011: Textmate 2 Alpha announced<p>I joked about this on my blog earlier this year, but wasn't expecting it to happen.

Also got hooked on vim, and couldn't thank Textmate's inactivity more for I may have never been pushed in the right direction and discovered the wonderful efficiency of the vim paradigm.<p>If I were to use Textmate now, it would need to be just a faster vim, with a less clunky vimscript, and it'd need to embed in a terminal, as vim made it possible for me to do everything on the command line and truly use working directories as my sole division between contextual workspaces.

It's good to hear, but it'll have to be pretty damn impressive to retake the ground lost to Sublime Text 2 and vim.

Too slow! I moved to Emacs back in 2007. I don't think Textmate could win me back at this point. I've taken the red pill.

TextMate still has the best find-in-project functionality. Sublime Text 2 doesn't compare if you want to rename something throughout the app.<p>As for vim, it's nice when you're in a console, but I don't think it's as pleasant to use.<p>The delay with TextMate has been rather absurd, though. Version 1 goes largely unmaintained (still no full-screen functionality for Lion). The last update was in November of 2010. Before then it was November of 2009.

I think everything has been said that can be said about the ridiculously-long release cycle of textmate, but I still don't get what is so great about sublime. The only thing it seems to have over textmate is split panels and the code overview (which looks cool but has never been very practical, at least for me). Am I missing something?

Switched to Sublime 2, a lot more releases + it's on osx, linux windows, meaning I never have to worry again.<p>Not sure if textmate2 is too late, but it certainly feel like it is, I do not see myself going back there.

I'll believe it when I see it. Hopefully it doesn't turn out like Duke Nukem Forever did. Also, I really sincerely hope that they'll open source the 1.x version, although if they do ever release 2.0 it might make that more unlikely.

So what's everyone's "bloodline"? I Can't be the only one who went Coda -&#62; textmate -&#62; macvim -&#62; vim

I've been using Textmate since 2006 and I'm still very happy with it. I'm still learning new tricks. Bundles allow it to keep pace fine for me.

Wonder how that works out. It's not just that people are waiting quite a while for an upgrade, it's also about regaining trust that once you get your beta (or even 2.0 final) out, the next pause won't be as long…

I don't see this as different than from the last time the developer said "Hopefully an alpha version will be ready before too long..." back in 2009. I hope he proves this wrong, though.

Given that 2.0 is labelled as a free upgrade to 1.x users and that the market for TextMate is already saturated (TM users have probably already bought a license and given how poorly TM has been supported, I doubt there are many people switching <i>to</i> TM), I wonder how long it'll be until a paid 2.1/3.0 ships with critical bug fixes and the features 2.0 left out in order to get it out the door.

Too late. Hooked on Vim.

Did we just run out of things where everyone though they’d never be released?

The discussion at this thread only convinced me to give a try to Sublime Text 2 (currently using Textmate). Never stopped to take a look at it. The vim mode looks nice.

Anyone using Vicoapp? If MacVim and Textmate had a lovechild it would be Vico. TM2 is going to have to be pretty amazing for me to switch.

It's a bit too little too late but I'm curious what they'll bring to the game now with so many people converting to Sublime Text 2.

I recently stumbled across the RopeMate bundle for TM. For Python it gives you intellisense/code-sense style autocompletion, and also a nifty 'refactor' command (ie. pull the selected code out into a new function which accepts any referenced variables as arguments), replacing the existing code with a call to the new function.<p>Highly recommended.

I've always just used Coda since I got a Mac 5 years ago. I haven't had any problems, so I haven't been compelled to switch. However, I keep hearing people talking about Textmate and Sublime. Why should I switch (I've been holding out for Coda 2, but I'm starting to lose hope)?

This is indeed good news, but I made the switch to vim a couple of months ago.

TM-1 was wonderful, so TM-2 should be fantastic. New users will <i>love</i> it, I'm sure. As for the original TM-1 users, they may just have moved on, after the long wait for their favourite features.

Anyone using Kod? (<a href="https://github.com/rsms/kod" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/rsms/kod</a>)<p>I love the interface, although it's still in beta and lacks a few handy features.

In the last year I've moved from TextMate to RubyMine and there is very little that I miss about TextMate, while RubyMine (at least for Ruby) offers so much more.

Hard to believe that I bought my TM license on October 19th 2006. It's been 5 years! I'm looking forward to another 5 years with TM2.

I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime, as others have mentioned, Sublime Text 2 has won me over.

After years and years of waiting they decide to tell us something... At least there is hope

I predict an Oct 22nd alpha release date, what with The Rapture booked in for the 21st.

ah I remember when I was excited <a href="http://blog.macromates.com/2009/working-on-it/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.macromates.com/2009/working-on-it/</a> :-)<p>Hope the alpha will all make us forget the release time. The bar is very high though.

Will it finally be available for Linux? If not, I'll stick with Sublime Text 2

I don't believe it.

This is a truly great troll.

I'll never understand why everyone loves TextMate so much. I mean, its a nice text editor but there are much better ones out there. Maybe I'm inexperienced or maybe I work far differently than TextMate users but Espresso is where it's at for me. Actually now there's Chocolat (<a href="http://chocolatapp.com" rel="nofollow">http://chocolatapp.com</a>). The alpha is shedding bugs quickly and it's shaping up to potentially be my favorite text editor of all time.

mind = blown

<a href="http://www.sublimetext.com/2" rel="nofollow">http://www.sublimetext.com/2</a>

Notepad++.

Everyone I work with is a former textmate user. Seriously, at least a couple dozen people. I know maybe 1 or 2 who are dumb/crazy/lazy enough to keep using it. Not a good retention rate.<p>It was good software, and had great longterm potential. But Allan's personality destroyed it (he's an artist, not a coder). I'm sure there's a great story behind how the project fell into the toilet, I'm looking forward to the book.