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Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

324 点作者 stiray大约 3 年前

15 条评论

nuccy大约 3 年前
Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust [1]. The internal systems and the reactors themselves are in nominal state without changes.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;ukraine-says-chernobyl-radiation-levels-increasing-after-russia-invasion-2022-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;ukraine-says-chernobyl-radia...</a>
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perihelions大约 3 年前
Tangentially, if you appreciate being able to read raw, unfiltered OSINT like OP (@OAlexanderDK) dug up, you&#x27;d be interested to know Twitter mistakenly suspended his account twice in the past three days [0] -- one among a large number of legitimate OSINT people covering Ukraine. The existence of this kind of HN thread is fragile.<p>You can also read Twitter Site Integrity&#x27;s apology and response [1], or independent reporting about this [2].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;OAlexanderDK&#x2F;status&#x2F;1496513006657839108" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;OAlexanderDK&#x2F;status&#x2F;1496513006657839108</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;yoyoel&#x2F;status&#x2F;1496544199478583297" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;yoyoel&#x2F;status&#x2F;1496544199478583297</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ft.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;5b23938b-49b8-426f-97af-640ba40c9922" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ft.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;5b23938b-49b8-426f-97af-640ba40c9...</a> (<i>&quot;Twitter admits it mistakenly removed Ukraine open-source intelligence accounts&quot;</i>)
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c7DJTLrn大约 3 年前
This is ridiculous panic. They haven&#x27;t cracked open the NSC or anything like that. It&#x27;s just dust. Long lived radionuclides kicked into the air that emit alpha and beta radiation - practically harmless unless you&#x27;re playing around in it like a sandpit. Please don&#x27;t let your attention be diverted from the matter at hand.
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anshumankmr大约 3 年前
There&#x27;s a followup tweet with a possible explanation: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;WillyWaugh&#x2F;status&#x2F;1497157722663391233" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;WillyWaugh&#x2F;status&#x2F;1497157722663391233</a><p>Though I am not 100% sure of this since the USSR had removed the topsoil back then but I suppose more of it could have spewed back in to the soil over time.
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perihelions大约 3 年前
- <i>&quot;Data from the automated radiation monitoring system of the exclusion zone, which is available online,&quot;</i><p>Where is this official source?
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aluminum96大约 3 年前
I really thought that Russia would avoid the exclusion zone. It was just so obvious that everyone benefits from keeping fighting out of that area.
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sschueller大约 3 年前
What strategic purpose would taking Chernobyl have other than maybe securing the site and preventing someone from blowing a hole in the sarcophagus?
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borgchick大约 3 年前
So are soldiers from both sides, either on foot or in vehicles in full radiation suits??? If not, aren&#x27;t they at severe risk of radiation poisoning (in addition to rapid on set lead poisoning)?<p>Not to mention if they continue past chernobyl into other regions, aren&#x27;t they just gonna carry all that radiation with them?
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eigelc大约 3 年前
I find this radiation spike very suspicious. What is the mechanism? Did they open the sarcophag, did they stop taking care of spent fuel from other reactors? What happened?<p>I don’t buy the story that they raised radiation simply by disturbing dust with their vehicles. There have been 39 years since the nuclear accident and I assume enough winds and rain and snow to raise all the dust that could have been raised.
pleb_nz大约 3 年前
Imagine this for a movie plot<p>Russia stages the invasion as a cover to recover something from deep under Chernobyl<p>What do you think that thing might be....
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ineedasername大约 3 年前
Does someone have any insight on why Russia would expend resources taking this site? AFAIK it doesn&#x27;t have anything useful or produce any power, except maybe the possibility that mishandling it could invoke the terror of regional disaster. (Unless that&#x27;s the point?)
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zrail大约 3 年前
Very likely a dumb question, but would the Russians be carrying depleted uranium ammunition? Could that be what&#x27;s causing the detectors to see spikes?
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pvaldes大约 3 年前
So we will have another massive die-off of endangered saiga antelopes this spring.
skywal_l大约 3 年前
Could they be deploying nukes? Chernobyl would be the perfect cover.
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hereforphone大约 3 年前
Be careful out there S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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