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If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it?

285 点作者 abhinavsharma大约 3 年前

99 条评论

kauguste281大约 3 年前
Google sucks compared to Google from years ago. It&#x27;s still vastly superior to the modern alternatives. It doesn&#x27;t help that almost all alternatives out there are just Bing with different window dressing, so going through alternatives is just annoying as they have all the same holes in the search results.<p>Another big issue is that everybody just tries to copy Google. I don&#x27;t need Google in less good, I want to see something that organize the Internet in a more useful way than just plain text search (e.g. what about Youtube-style recommendations for websites, old-school Yahoo-style dictionaries, AI categorization, Dejanews-style search for webforums, a button to filter out everything that requires a login or whatever).<p>I feel there is a lot of untapped potential that gets missed by just trying to be a Google search clone.
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not2b大约 3 年前
The author missed the most important reason that Google search results often suck: tens of thousands of people are working very hard to make it suck. They call themselves &quot;SEO specialists&quot;, and their job is to get their shitty site to the top of the rankings. It&#x27;s an ongoing battle. Sure, Google wants to make money, but to do that they need to protect their search moneymaker and keep it dominant, so their incentive is to make the users happy. They aren&#x27;t sucking on purpose.
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fdgsdfogijq大约 3 年前
Honestly I think people are completely underestimating the difficulty of a good search engine. Google was better ten years ago because search was an easier problem to solve back then. End of story. Nobody is coming along with a better search engine. There is too much spam, content gaming, and money to be made by hacking search.<p>These posts should almost be blocked from hacker news. ITs a fantasy. Its like saying that democracy has failed so lets replace it, replace with what? Its the best we can get given the alternatives, and its flaws will always be exploited.
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Guest19023892大约 3 年前
I&#x27;ll toss out a crazy idea to compete with Google.<p>1. You buy StackOverflow for $2 billion and Reddit for $10 billion.<p>2. You block Google from indexing the sites.<p>3. You start a new search engine that only searches StackOverflow and Reddit.<p>4. As the new search engine gains traction, you invite other high quality sites to join your vision and search engine. One requirement is they must block Google. You can guarantee them decent traffic because they&#x27;ll only be competing against a dozen sites on your search engine, instead of millions on Google.<p>5. A large number of respectable sites leave Google and are only available on your search engine. Businesses start becoming eager to join your exclusive network and ask to join your mission.<p>6. Google is left with blog and affiliate SEO spam, and you become the hero of the search engine world.
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SllX大约 3 年前
My standard line on this is that Google today is not as good as Google of (at this point more than) 10 years ago, but it is still the best available option <i>today</i> because nothing is as good as or better than Google of (at this point more than) 10 years ago.<p>That said there have been a stack of new search engine posts on HN in the last few months and I may have to update my priors once I’ve had a chance to actually investigate the new options.<p>EDIT: Maybe I should note that I’ve also been relying a lot more on Reddit too in the past year since Apollo has a decent search interface for Reddit and I’ve gotten used to processing new subs quickly and getting information out of them. If nothing else I usually at least have a stack of new terminology to feed my search queries elsewhere.
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jessriedel大约 3 年前
142 comments so far and no one is has mentioned the actual punchline of the OP: the Hypersearch chrome extension the author is pitching. Personally, I find the pitch compelling, but am very interested to hear from anyone who has used it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;hypersearch&#x2F;feojagelicdlhnmldaiplbppfbolnnag" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;hypersearch&#x2F;feojag...</a><p>Note: This extension &quot;can read and change all your data on all websites&quot;. Perhaps that&#x27;s necessary for what they are offering, but it seems very dangerous, especially for a 1-week old extension with 24 users and 2 ratings.<p>Also, the &quot;website&quot; link (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;insight.space" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;insight.space</a>) on the Chrome extension page just says &quot;The domain name insight.space is for sale!&quot;.<p>Do other folks have reason to trust this?<p>(General discussion of why Google Search is bad that does not actually engage with the specific details of the OP&#x27;s arguments seems inappropriate in this thread; there have been innumerable HN threads about the general issue.)
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compiler-guy大约 3 年前
The web itself sucks more and more, and Google results reflect that. Much good discussion migrated to siloed locations like facebook groups. There are thousands of pages of technical content that are barely redone versions of each other. Each SEO&#x27;d to within an inch of its life. These are quite similar to the dozens of identical off-brand products one finds on amazon.<p>I would love to see Google results get better. But the web itself is a mess.
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Koshkin大约 3 年前
Paraphrasing Stroustrup, there are only two kinds of services: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.
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frb大约 3 年前
I don’t think that most people care about using Google or quality of search results at all.<p>I’d agree that the average HN user and certain professions like developers do care. I tried them all, kept switching back to Google and recently stuck with Kagi.<p>If I look at average not-so-technical users, they just enter words into their browser’s navigation&#x2F;search bar and are happy to get useful results.<p>It’s worth to remember that Google is the default search engine in most common browsers (Chrome, Safari, Firefox).<p>Recently my wife, a typical Mac and Chrome user, got a new Windows computer from work. She didn’t notice that she was using Edge and Bing as browser and search engine until I once looked at her screen and commented on it. She shrugged it off as unimportant and keeps on using it, even though she could change the browser as well as the search engine.
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falcolas大约 3 年前
The moat is worse than we think. New search engines are not only hobbled by the bandwidth and processing power and storage required to spider the web, but by the websites who will preemptively disallow them <i>because</i> they&#x27;re not Google.<p>I can&#x27;t imagine trying to build a new search engine when the landscape is intentionally (if justifiably) hostile to new search engines.
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JamesAdir大约 3 年前
I think people are forgetting that large portion of data once available for search engines in blogs and forums is now dead. This data is live only on closed Facebook groups - which you can&#x27;t search even if you are on Facebook and blogs are dying slowly with Facebook and twitter, with Facebook as a closed garden and twitter is on the way to become one. I don&#x27;t know why people so eager on Reddit content, since their push to more monetization, the algorithm is aimed to create more traffic and not quality discussions. You can see it on the front page with many posts are more flammatory in nature.
richardsocher大约 3 年前
They don&#x27;t know yet about you.com? - No spam, no ads, you control the ranker with your source preferences, hardcore private mode that doesn&#x27;t save anything nor uses your location (even DDG saves your queries and gives location-based results), many developer apps that include what you want - eg code snippets in a StackOverflow app, AI apps like you.com&#x2F;write that would write essays for you, etc.<p>Also, many folks (outside the hackernews crowd) never change their defaults and Google pays Apple 15B per year, as well as Samsung and many others, to be that default.<p>Disclaimer: I work at you.com
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gotaquestion大约 3 年前
I&#x27;ve been using DDG for several years and every once and a while I prefix my search with &quot;g!&quot; to search google, and it isn&#x27;t any better, so I stopped doing that.<p>Maybe people don&#x27;t know there are alternatives? How does OP expect them to switch to Hypersearch if they aren&#x27;t even using DDG which has been around for a very long time?
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mountainriver大约 3 年前
The “google search sucks” rhetoric is getting a bit old. It works really really well and is free. I rarely ever have issues with it.<p>I think it’s just getting trendy to dog on
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Gualdrapo大约 3 年前
I still use it mainly for non &quot;standard&quot; search:<p>- Its location feature is better than DDG or anything else - It has gotten worse a bit, but if I tell it to show me results from Colombia, 95% of the results it will return are from actual websites from Colombia. DDG will throw anything from Latin America, for example. Not to mention the disaster with Bing.<p>- Its image search feature is still more precise than others. Reverse search won&#x27;t return sometimes what I&#x27;m looking for and I have to resort to Yandex&#x2F;TinEye&#x2F;Bing, but still. Oh, and it can search for SVGs, which others can&#x27;t.<p>- Double quotes aren&#x27;t returning exact matches, but other operators are working fine as far as I can tell. Filetype operator is great and way bigger than DDG&#x27;s, cache operator is great for looking for a cached version of a website that is not working at the moment, the minus operator still works (sans the advertisements).
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jbn_norse大约 3 年前
What people, entrepreneurial subculture, and professionals don’t understand is that Google is in the business of delivering a crappy product because of how it relates to advertising psychology. It’s that simple. An example can be observed in SEO which doubles as a product framework in the context of performing a job for Google by altering content in the hopes of producing behavioral modification. This is almost always misunderstood by their best and brightest for lack of self awareness or actual intelligence. No one has ever been able to compete because quite frankly no one has any idea what the hell they’re doing. I do, however
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frenchy大约 3 年前
This article is really not that good, it suggests a bunch of obvious reasons why Google has a moat (Chrome, everyone&#x27;s personal data) and misses some others (brand recognition). Then it goes and an explains reason why OP thinks Google sucks (to be fair I agree with him, but they&#x27;re pretty subjective). Finally, OP claims that people are abandoning Google. Their single data point is that since 2009 there have been fewer searches for mortgages, because that couldn&#x27;t possibly have been the result of an mortgage-driven recession in 2008.
dash2大约 3 年前
I use search.brave.com and it&#x27;s usually OK. It fails on some complex queries. Unfortunately SEO spam for Google also catches Brave.
nyx_land大约 3 年前
Because there is effectively no alternative. Bing and engines that are different frontends for Bing results aren&#x27;t alternatives, don&#x27;t kid yourself; it only exists still because Microsoft is another company like Google that shoves their subpar product onto people (by making it the default search on their subpar OS that took over the world) and hopes they never seek out alternatives. Most people are too dumb and lazy to seek out better alternatives, so they stick with the default search engines for Edge or Chrome. For everyone else, there is no real alternative, so while Google&#x27;s search results are getting objectively worse, it doesn&#x27;t matter because it&#x27;s at least a lesser of two evils. They don&#x27;t need to worry about becoming more mediocre when they&#x27;ve made sure to put themselves in a position where they basically have no competition.
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ct0大约 3 年前
If you&#x27;re referring to google search specifically, a major tool to combat the spammed ads in search that has helped me is available here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;g-search-filter&#x2F;?utm_content=addons-manager-reviews-link&amp;utm_medium=firefox-browser&amp;utm_source=firefox-browser" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;g-search-filt...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iorate.github.io&#x2F;ublacklist&#x2F;docs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iorate.github.io&#x2F;ublacklist&#x2F;docs</a>
adamlynch大约 3 年前
I kinda wish the opposite of hypersearch existed. Let me explain.<p>I set up multiple browser profiles recently; work and personal. For work, I need Google. I&#x27;m a software engineer and I find that alternatives just aren&#x27;t good enough for those kinds of searches yet.<p>For personal, I&#x27;m trying to use an alternative. It&#x27;s ok most of the time but sometimes the results aren&#x27;t great so then I try searching again in Google.<p>I&#x27;d like if there was an extension that augmented the alternative with Google results in the sidebar. If possible, in a way that preserved privacy.
karaterobot大约 3 年前
By the end of the article, this is full-on marketing the OPs product, so be aware of that when thinking about how the problem and solution are framed.<p>It&#x27;s an interesting question though. I think the answer is that most people don&#x27;t really care? The bubble we live in is filled with other people who, like us , are very knowledgeable about this domain, pay attention to what&#x27;s going on behind the scenes, and have very strong opinions on it. 99% of the rest of the world doesn&#x27;t give the quality and nature of Google search a second thought.
alligatorplum大约 3 年前
This feels like one of those things where people only notice the bad experiences, bad search results, and ignore all the times it was right, good&#x2F;neutral search results.<p>One of google search&#x27;s biggest advantages is the ability to save a click for the user. If I search for &quot;NCAA scores&quot; google will show me the live scores directly instead of showing me a link to the ncaa website which also shows me the score but at the expense of me having to click on the link.<p>IMO, the right way to dethrone google search would be to have better (or more) QOL features.
grey_earthling大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m kind of surprised that HN hears “Google” and still thinks “web search” — I assumed the headline was about the company as a whole, and my mind first went to Gmail&#x2F;Google Drive&#x2F;their office stuff, Android&#x2F;Chrome, and YouTube.<p>Are web search engines still “a thing” that people have opinions about? To me they&#x27;re just kind of <i>there</i> and mediocre and unremarkable — the beige wallpaper of modern life, corporate blue and 12pt Arial; like a dreary shopping centre on a Tuesday; as exciting as a press release.
ncann大约 3 年前
- It&#x27;s free<p>- It&#x27;s better than most alternatives, and in many cases there isn&#x27;t even an alternative<p>- People have amassed too much data on Google services and the cost of moving&#x2F;switching is too high<p>- People don&#x27;t care
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JohnFen大约 3 年前
Not everyone is still using it. It&#x27;s been a few years now since the quality of Google search had fallen to the point where I just stopped using it entirely.
vivekraghunatha大约 3 年前
(Founder of Neeva here) On OP&#x27;s question -- don&#x27;t underestimate the power of defaults. Google owns Chrome and Android. Google pays Apple to be the default on Safari. Google pays Firefox to be the default. Bing is default on Edge. And so on. All the platforms make it very hard to change the defaults. And on platforms like Safari, as a user, you can&#x27;t even change the default search provider if you want to.
sithadmin大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m defaulting to Brave, then falling back on DuckDuckGo, then Bing, then Google these days. Feels a lot like the early web again.
tsian2大约 3 年前
I think normal people have just changed how they use it without much fanfare. If people want to quickly find a specific site they are looking for they know it&#x27;s the place. But if they want to explore the world of cat memes they know it&#x27;s not the place for something like that any more (it&#x27;ll only show you 143 results, many with weak relevancy).
post_break大约 3 年前
I use DDG most of the time, then when I cant find technical stuff I g!. And let&#x27;s be honest, bing is the king for porn.
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quantified大约 3 年前
GSuite is poor compared with alternatives. Corporations make choices based on more criteria than just UI and functionality.
high_pathetic大约 3 年前
That&#x27;s two blanket statements in one headline.<p>Google search is fast, accurate enough for the most users, very widely adopted.<p>GMail is fast, good with SPAM, free.<p>Google has some practices that might be considered as evil but this affects a relatively narrow list of people, it definitely doesn&#x27;t &quot;suck&quot; for everyone. Lotus Notes, on the hand...
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humanwhosits大约 3 年前
I&#x27;ve started using DDG for most searches, and a private email provider instead of gmail
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eevilspock大约 3 年前
If the Earth&#x27;s ecosystem is being destroyed, why are we, in particular those that are not poor, still consuming so much plastic, energy and stuff in general?<p>If Facebook is bad for Democracy, why do so many people, especially those who decry the state of democracy, still use it?<p>If sugar and processed foods are so bad for us, why do so many people consume so much?<p>If the education system is tilted incredibly against children born into disadvantage and for those with advantage, why do the parents of the later, including liberal ones who fly the flag of equality and justice, hoard as much of quality educational resources for their own children as they can?<p>(I&#x27;m sad that no one else is pointing this out)
ubvhgidft大约 3 年前
&gt; If Google sucks then why is everyone still using it?<p>If prison food sucks why do prisoners eat it?
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asimpletune大约 3 年前
I would gladly pay for a really good search engine if anyone is listening.
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scyzoryk_xyz大约 3 年前
This is a very complicated answer when the reason is very simple - monopoly power.<p>Would have been nice to know at the beginning of the article that this guy has something to sell with his own search product.
DeathArrow大约 3 年前
1 changing is difficult<p>2 some people depend on Google services<p>3 there aren&#x27;t too many alternatives<p>4 alternatives that exist are not integrated in the way Google services are<p>That being said, it amazes me how no good search engines exist. By good I mean relevant results and less poisoning with advertising. It shouldn&#x27;t be an impossible undertaking. Probably no one could find business sense in a decent search engine. If that is the case, I wonder if is possible to make a community backed search engine, similar to how Wikipedia works.
octoberfranklin大约 3 年前
Because their crawler gets special privileges from cloudflare and the other CDNs.<p>Here, read about the problem from one of the very few remaining non-GoogleBingYandex crawlers remaining:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gigablast.com&#x2F;blog.html#willneverhappen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gigablast.com&#x2F;blog.html#willneverhappen</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gigablast.com&#x2F;blog.html#stopevilcensorship" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gigablast.com&#x2F;blog.html#stopevilcensorship</a>
jokethrowaway大约 3 年前
Duckduckgo is vastly superior to Google in my experience.<p>Normal searches give me the same information, news results feel less biased (they present articles from both left.and right viewpoint), better code search (especially with the code snippet extractor), less DMCA removed content<p>The only things I reach out for google are: - Business hours of stores - Google maps<p>Also, I don&#x27;t often search for images but duckduckgo safety filter still let a few nsfw pics to go through.<p>People are on Google because of habit
andrewstuart大约 3 年前
Because people stick with something thats &quot;good enough&quot;.<p>The biggest barrier to any competitor for any product&#x2F;service anywhere is a &quot;good enough&quot; incumbent.
cryptica大约 3 年前
I stopped using Google search. The only Google product I use now are Maps and Android. I used DuckDuckGo for a while and more recently I switched to Qwant. They&#x27;re all approximately the same.<p>I don&#x27;t think that PageRank or similar algorithms provide any competitive edge at this stage. The real advantage of PageRank in the past is that it was difficult to game, but nowadays, backlinks are all about money and SEO anyway.
Jean-Philipe大约 3 年前
I tried switching to DDG a few times over the past few years and always found that it got in my way, especially when working. So I usually got annoyed enough after a few weeks and switched back to google.<p>About two months ago, the opposite happened. Google gave me so much spam and advertising, the search got worse, now I ended up using DDG. It still sucks, for sure, but somehow it sucks less than google now.
jeffbee大约 3 年前
We have to have this discussion daily, apparently, but nobody, absolutely nobody in this thread and certainly not the article, has established an objective basis for &quot;Google sucks&quot;. The most likely alternate theory, which the article doesn&#x27;t bother discussing, is that Google does not in practice &quot;suck&quot; at all.
scotty79大约 3 年前
I had trouble switching to DuckDuck Go search previously.<p>It changed when I installed DucDuckGo browser on my phone. It has really good internet decrapifying features and it uses ddg search by default and so far I didn&#x27;t have a single reason to change that default.<p>I hope ddg will relese similar browser for desktop. Maybe I&#x27;ll be able to switch to it then.
russellbeattie大约 3 年前
There are so many websites, apps and media services that are slowly being affected by what I call &quot;information ochlocracy&quot;, where those types of organizations which rely on large numbers of people for their existence, will naturally start to target the widest audience&#x2F;viewership&#x2F;user base, and the quality of the service as a whole suffer as a result.<p>Here&#x27;s the law: &quot;The value of information is inversely proportional to the size of its intended audience.&quot; And its correlary: &quot;The wider the audience, the less valuable a piece of information will need to be.&quot; These both stem from the basic premise that accurate information is more valuable the more scarce it is.<p>What this creates basically is a situation in which the quality, depth and timeliness of a piece of information or media service will, over time, always tend towards the most broadly applicable content, despite being less and less specifically useful.<p>In Google&#x27;s case we can use cars as an example. Ideally, depending on the exact search term, you might want results providing information about buying them or maybe fixing them. However, maybe more advertising money can be made from using that search term to sell Forza or Gran Turismo video games, so the algorithms will detect this and shift accordingly. And since these games are being talked about on social media a lot, the algorithms pick that up too. Maybe some news mentioned the car or a celebrity bought one. The result might be that you&#x27;re scrolling through ads from Microsoft and Sony, online shopping results of all the related gaming products, summaries of tweets about it, news snippets, etc., and almost nothing about what you were originally looking for. Searches for historical events like Pearl Harbor could have you scrolling past movie reviews before you finally get to a Wikipedia link.<p>Ochlocracy is mob rule. It&#x27;s the evil flip side of democracy, in which people actively make a choice based on considered opinions. In an ochlocracy, the choice is made by the whims of the mob as a whole, and they themselves don&#x27;t even know the choices they&#x27;re making. As Google and other companies optimize their services, the numbers will always lead to targeting the largest swath of people and as a result the overall quality naturally suffers.<p>There&#x27;s more to this, but this is the general problem. In order to keep growing from now on, every year Google&#x27;s overall quality will have to suffer in order to be more applicable to larger numbers of people.
crobertsbmw大约 3 年前
I use DuckDuckGo and it seems like it’s gotten worse on the last couple months. Whenever I search for programming questions I expect staovetflow to be on top bit lately I’ve been getting geeksforweeks blog or some BS showing at the top of the search results every time. I don’t get it. It’s not just google…
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hyperpallium2大约 3 年前
It&#x27;s trivial to switch search engines, so Google invests in PR to make it stickier. All those cool google projects that are constantly in the news? The ROI is PR.<p>It also made massive capital investment in server farms, for fast results, especially <i>google suggest</i>. A way of converting profit into economic moat.
pictur大约 3 年前
It was ideas that mattered in the early 2000s. but nowadays marketing is much more important than ideas. In other words, an alternative that can work better than Google can of course be made, but its good work alone is never enough to compete with it. Or maybe I don&#x27;t know.
FpUser大约 3 年前
Not sure about everyone but for my searches Google always gives me way better results that the competitors. So while I dislike google as a company I still do use their search and youtube for the lack of true alternative. Rest of their stuff I successfully avoid.
dkersten大约 3 年前
I actually don’t use google (search or other services aside form YouTube) very often. As for “everyone”, I assume habit and momentum. People are used to it so it’s hard to change to something else. Many people also don’t know what alternatives there are.
t0bia_s大约 3 年前
-&gt; People are increasingly asking the questions that really matter in their Facebook and WhatsApp groups, Twitter, Discord and Slack communities, etc.<p>That is true and make sense why it is so hard to search solutions nowdays. Especially software related.
malwarebytess大约 3 年前
I wonder what googlers think about discussions like this? It doesn&#x27;t seem like a rare opinion among techies that Google search has been declining in usefulness. Honestly, Google obfuscates the internet instead of making it accessible.
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johndfsgdgdfg大约 3 年前
I tell everyone to use Bing. It&#x27;s decent, but better than using Google. Google invades our privacy, keeps users hostages for money. I wish Amazon has built a search engine so that Google&#x27;s tyrannical regime on internet ends.
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nathias大约 3 年前
Because they invested 20 years of majority of online capital into becoming the infrastructure of the web, much like Microsoft spent all of theirs to become the infrastructure of PC. These corporate strategies should be illegal.
penjelly大约 3 年前
i use brave and brave.search, havent had search issues since switching over.
rr808大约 3 年前
I use Bing. I dont know why everyone complains it finds anything I want, though I guess I dont really need anything too complicated. I like to encourage competition, the points are handy too.
cehrlich大约 3 年前
I have switched to Kagi for everything other than trying to find stuff that&#x27;s on Google Maps. Search results are consistently better. I think their backend is mostly just Bing?
turbinerneiter大约 3 年前
Im so used to the UI (down to the fonts, things I can&#x27;t even name), that DuckDuckGo looks off to me. So although it is set as my standar search engine, I g! most of the time.
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gumby大约 3 年前
Is that a notion page? I couldn&#x27;t use space to go to the next page (the oldest pagination system in the (computing) world).<p>So I stopped reading at the end of the page.
Havoc大约 3 年前
Recently managed to finally de-google my search.<p>SearXNG funneled through protonVPN
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Lamad123大约 3 年前
you.com is amazing, I&#x27;m not shilling for them, but I managed to find a couple youtube videos and a few other tings I couldn&#x27;t find with google or DDG and Bing.
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ratsmack大约 3 年前
I haven&#x27;t used google for at least three years, because I started to use Bing. Compared to what Google had become, Bing is far superior in my experience.
kdazzle大约 3 年前
I use Ecosia, and the results are usually good enough. Google’s results are often better, but now there are only like 4 results on the first page.
GeekyBear大约 3 年前
For the same reason that Google pays Apple and Mozilla huge sums every year.<p>Most people won&#x27;t change the default settings for their search engine.
xlaacid大约 3 年前
oh, its an ad for their garbage extension. I see.
kdot大约 3 年前
A domain block list would solve most of the search quality and spam problems, I don&#x27;t understand why Google removed it.
np-大约 3 年前
We’re all just searching Reddit anyway and it’s just easier to use Google to search Reddit than to use Reddit’s own search tool.
adipginting大约 3 年前
Google does not suck. It is the best search engine by far. Nobody else can compete. Our individual experience may vary though
wly_cdgr大约 3 年前
Because everything else sucks way worse, obviously. I mean,...have you actually tried using Bing?<p>Next question...
traceroute66大约 3 年前
Just use Startpage, its Google without the tracking.<p>DuckDuckGo is ok too.<p>TL;DR there&#x27;s no reason to default to direct Google.
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dhanna大约 3 年前
I don’t think you realize that web search is the largest computational problem in existence.
tluyben2大约 3 年前
Google is still the fastest way to find things. The rest, including ddg just is not as good.
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ipunchghosts大约 3 年前
I use yandex
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paulpauper大约 3 年前
google needs better date filtering. old threads from reddit keep being marked as new.
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Axien大约 3 年前
Google is already losing substantial market share. Let’s do an experiment. If you want to buy a blender, what is the first site you try? What about directions? Today’s weather?<p>My answers are Amazon, Siri, and Alexa. Not Google. Google will continue to lose as these assistants become more powerful.
nightski大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m not using it directly. Have been using DDG for about 10 years now.
ncmncm大约 3 年前
Because Microsoft sucks too? Because browsers default to connecting to it?
endisneigh大约 3 年前
The fact SEO wasn’t mentioned once makes this lose all credibility imho
gattis大约 3 年前
I&#x27;d ditch google if someone just built a way to grep the web.
OnlyMortal大约 3 年前
I don’t use it. DuckDuckGo for searching and a Mac or iOS.<p>Who is this “everyone”?
hobz22大约 3 年前
i use opera on android, firefox in windows, safari on mac and duckduckgo for everything and have been for YEARS. I&#x27;m offended you&#x27;re including me in your cohort. lol
dleslie大约 3 年前
It&#x27;s the bad default of the devices that most people use.<p>This is basically the outcome that antitrust prosecutors were concerned for with Microsoft.<p>Imagine if Android couldn&#x27;t bundle a browser, or integrate any of Google&#x27;s SAAS products.
Shadonototra大约 3 年前
because it is good, the only people who complain about it are on pro-mozilla mediums, even though mozilla sells their users to google, the irony :)
xyzzy21大约 3 年前
Some of us DO NOT use Google or anything from them.
pgt大约 3 年前
Your honour, leading the witness.<p>Everyone is not using Google.
helph67大约 3 年前
Because `common sense&#x27; ain&#x27;t!
openfuture大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m not..
rufus_foreman大约 3 年前
Everyone isn&#x27;t still using it.<p>That&#x27;s a lie.
dwighttk大约 3 年前
I’m not
anothernewdude大约 3 年前
Inertia
zanethomas大约 3 年前
Everyone is not using it.
loonster大约 3 年前
SEO ruined search.
zanethomas大约 3 年前
Everyone? Not me.
TechBro8615大约 3 年前
Give it time.
yoyopa大约 3 年前
because stumbleupon is gone
simy大约 3 年前
site:Reddit.com
moltke大约 3 年前
The truth is that normal people <i>like</i> abusive software. Using software that gives them freedom also gives them the responsibility to understand the behavior of the machine which is something they do not want. No amount of evangelism or possibly even education will fix this. IMO for their own good people who behave this way should not be allowed to use computers and should delegate the task to people who are willing to think through the consequences of using a particular piece of software.<p>Allowing normal people to use computers is cruel in the same way making a dog order its food over the telephone is.
mrkramer大约 3 年前
I have plenty ideas on how to improve quality of search of Google but I figured out competing with Google would be akin to slow painful death so I wouldn&#x27;t start my own search engine atm. If somehow we could influence the Google&#x27;s management to listen to our suggestions. Maybe the root problem is indeed business model which eventually shapes how features are introduced and how UI&#x2F;UX turns out to be.<p>Google is smart but sleepy and somewhat distracted from their core business with 99 other projects they have.