TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

Why aren’t there more dogs at the doctor’s office?

75 点作者 Ariarule大约 3 年前

20 条评论

summm大约 3 年前
Because they are unhygienic, they trigger allergies and fears, they carry a certain risk to attack humans, and above all, they are very unreliable.
评论 #30751428 未加载
评论 #30751284 未加载
评论 #30748845 未加载
评论 #30749630 未加载
Buttons840大约 3 年前
Someone once said that dog&#x27;s noses are the closest thing we have to Star Trek tricorders. In Star Trek a tricorder is a handheld sensor that can seemingly detect anything in any situation, and as a Star Trek fan this description has always stuck with me.<p>Perhaps one day we&#x27;ll master electronic noses, but until then, dogs seem under utilized. If anyone&#x27;s looking for a high difficulty, high impact way of changing the world, look at electronic noses.<p>Human smell is also under utilized. I had a friend with a severe peanut allergy who could enter a house and immediately tell if there were peanuts in the house. Presumably most people possess such senses, but have no reason to use them.
评论 #30745095 未加载
评论 #30750685 未加载
anadem大约 3 年前
A new study shows that ants are as effective as dogs at detecting cancer, and can be trained to do so in as little as 30 minutes [0]<p>That doesn&#x27;t explain dogs&#x27; absence, but one day it might.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthcarepackaging.com&#x2F;quick-hits&#x2F;article&#x2F;22118369&#x2F;ants-can-be-trained-to-detect-cancer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.healthcarepackaging.com&#x2F;quick-hits&#x2F;article&#x2F;22118...</a>
评论 #30747674 未加载
paxys大约 3 年前
There are a lot of far-fetched claims made in the article that don&#x27;t pass the smell test (heh).<p>For example, in the article:<p>&gt; there is evidence that dogs can quickly and accurately detect COVID-19 infection<p>In the linked source:<p>&gt; but researchers say large-scale studies are needed before the approach is scaled up.<p>I imagine it is similar for every other diagnosis they tout. Small scale tests under ideal conditions very rarely survive real world application.
评论 #30748817 未加载
soufron大约 3 年前
Because it would be a dogtor office...
评论 #30748841 未加载
codr7大约 3 年前
Not sure I like where this is going, now I&#x27;m imagining dogs patrolling public areas and tagging random people for mandatory Covid quarantine.<p>Not being able to smoke a joint before crossing a border without risking harassment was bad enough.
评论 #30745351 未加载
评论 #30745494 未加载
cromd大约 3 年前
Seeing some comments about the reliability of dogs, it’s good to keep in mind that traditional medical tests can also be quite unreliable. This link [1] explains how mammograms can have a “positive predictive value” (% alarms that are correct) of under 10% for many age groups. Maybe that’s what you want in a screening test to catch most of the bad stuff. And maybe dogs could be incorporated as one component of several.<p>Though, maybe similar to the sense of “unreliable” is that performance could vary a lot from dog to dog, or over time, in a way that might not be true for other tests. But Im not sure if that’s worth worrying about if the aggregate performance is quantified and comparable to other methods.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jamanetwork.com&#x2F;journals&#x2F;jama&#x2F;article-abstract&#x2F;409356" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jamanetwork.com&#x2F;journals&#x2F;jama&#x2F;article-abstract&#x2F;40935...</a>
bell-cot大约 3 年前
A better title: Why Aren&#x27;t There More Dogs in Medical Labs, Sniffing &amp; Screening Samples?<p>Quick answer: What major stakeholder or gatekeeper would favor that situation? Beyond obvious regulatory issues, dogs sniffing samples is not patent-able, high-tech, high-status, nor high-profit.
评论 #30750719 未加载
评论 #30748623 未加载
kayodelycaon大约 3 年前
Long story short, dogs aren’t reliable enough to be medical devices.<p>The whole “police dog” comparison is completely misleading. Drugs dogs are hilariously unreliable and are explicitly used by some departments solely to create probable cause.<p>And with SAR dogs, they don’t need to be reliable at tracking as long as they are better than humans.
评论 #30745581 未加载
评论 #30745746 未加载
评论 #30745561 未加载
评论 #30745601 未加载
评论 #30745704 未加载
Spooky23大约 3 年前
A: Getting stuff approved requires VC or drug patent level revenues to study, and nobody will fund rigorous study of the capability of dogs and the protocols needed to utilize them appropriately.
engineer_22大约 3 年前
&quot;OK sir, we&#x27;ve got your blood work, and we&#x27;d now like you to stop by the dog-detection office for a sniff test. That&#x27;ll help us eliminate some of the possibilities&quot;
评论 #30750445 未加载
Maursault大约 3 年前
If medicine used dogs, wouldn&#x27;t every doctor&#x27;s office need x different dogs trained in detecting x different diseases? Also, there are ethical considerations in employing living creatures that can not possibly be fairly compensated. Development and use of an artificial nose would be superior, because only one (system) would be required, compared to i don&#x27;t know how many dogs.
ogwh大约 3 年前
Allergies.
frereubu大约 3 年前
The title question can be answered with one sentence in the article itself: &quot;As with all preliminary scientific findings, there is still a need for large-scale, reproducible studies before researchers make broad claims regarding the usefulness of dogs in diagnostics work.&quot;
amir734jj大约 3 年前
Because some people (including myself) have animal phobia. I have been bitten by stray dog at the age of 5. I am almost 30 and still can&#x27;t overcome my phobia. Upon seeing a dog or any other animal my flight instinct takes over.
cameronh90大约 3 年前
Related: When your house&#x2F;office&#x2F;data centre&#x2F;whatever has an intermittent bad smell, what&#x27;s a good way to find the source?<p>I have a dog, but I&#x27;m not sure how to train it to locate smells I find objectionable.
评论 #30748645 未加载
评论 #30749400 未加载
评论 #30748786 未加载
hooby大约 3 年前
I would assume the two main reasons are lack of access to this sort of dog training, as well as the impracticality of having a dog at a doctors office.
analog31大约 3 年前
Detecting disease with dogs would seem to be an O(N) process: To detect N diseases, we need N dogs in the clinic. Is this really feasible?
评论 #30758215 未加载
评论 #30750198 未加载
pvaldes大约 3 年前
In part because this. Nobody wants to deal with this people if avoidable<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Brown_Dog_affair" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Brown_Dog_affair</a><p>If you keep a dog in a lab you became a target for cruelty animal groups that will see your demise as an opportunity to spread their stance.<p>And in part because dogs made difficult to keep the clean space that is expected in this places.
jjcon大约 3 年前
Answer: Dogs kill 25 thousand people a year - they are not safe and people are allergic.<p>Edit: It isn’t rabies that makes them unsafe - just in the USA about 4.5 million Americans are attacked by dogs every year resulting in thousands of hospitalizations.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wemjournal.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;S1080-6032(09)70079-1&#x2F;fulltext" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wemjournal.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;S1080-6032(09)70079-1&#x2F;ful...</a>
评论 #30745726 未加载
评论 #30748993 未加载
评论 #30746129 未加载
评论 #30745518 未加载
评论 #30745441 未加载
评论 #30745439 未加载
评论 #30745507 未加载
评论 #30745463 未加载
评论 #30745462 未加载