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I’m Disappointed with 1Password

95 点作者 trungdq88大约 3 年前

27 条评论

TehShrike大约 3 年前
I know &quot;local man doesn&#x27;t notice anything&quot; isn&#x27;t a compelling story, but the transition didn&#x27;t cause any noticeable changes for me.<p>I&#x27;m still very happy to pay 1Password to be responsible for my most important data.
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Uninen大约 3 年前
I&#x27;ve been a 1Password customer for over a decade. I&#x27;ve also brought them lots of consumer and business customers as I&#x27;ve taught people and companies I deal with to use password managers, and I thought 1Password hit the sweet spot of good usability and security.<p>But I cancelled my account a couple of weeks ago. Their product has been worsening over time, and the last adventure of aligning themselves with the (wrong kind of) crypto bros was the final straw for me.<p>I&#x27;m not really familiar with Bitwarden but it is open source and I managed to import all my data in one go from 1Password so I&#x27;m testing that for now. IT feels good to support open source at least.
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cassac大约 3 年前
1Password is like everyone else who sells out. I bought their stuff before they had subscriptions, and now that they have subscriptions, they are crippling the product so that you have to pay up or ship out. When the time comes I’m going to Bitwarden.
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torstenvl大约 3 年前
For cloud-based, I think BitWarden is the obvious consensus. For local-first, I settled on Enpass. It&#x27;s closed source and proprietary but the format is decently documented and they provided help in making an open-source database reader <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;hazcod&#x2F;enpass-cli" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;hazcod&#x2F;enpass-cli</a><p>Now my passwords are somewhere I control, in a format I can read with open source tools, and sync is done by Dropbox&#x2F;maestral. It&#x27;s like being back on classic 1Password but slightly more stable and slightly less polished in the UI.
paxys大约 3 年前
Cool, but like..why is one person&#x27;s bug report upvoted to the front page of HN?
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stanislavb大约 3 年前
I&#x27;d recommend giving a go to Bitwarden.
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donohoe大约 3 年前
I really like 1Password but this hits very close to home.<p>It used to be a solid app and now its browser integration have been more and more messed up for me these last few months.<p>I’m having the same issues detailed here.
EMIRELADERO大约 3 年前
Does anyone know why 1Password&#x27;s client application is closed-source? For a company so &quot;modern&quot; and insistent on transparency, it seems weird that they wouldn&#x27;t even release the client app code as at least &quot;source available&quot;. Don&#x27;t get what they would be losing here. Same question with the server. Bitwarden seems to be doing just fine with an open-source&#x2F;source-available approach.
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GolDDranks大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m pretty than happy with self-hosted Bitwarden. It isn&#x27;t perfect, but it works well enough.
sairamkunala大约 3 年前
I let my subscription expire about 3 months ago. (CC handling changes in India, you know)<p>I have only updated about 3-4 passwords out of 100s of items I store. This has been a realisation for me.<p>1pass, leaves the account in read only mode since it comes from your local storage anyway.<p>I need to get familiarised with the Bitwarden UI, its not very similar to 1pass, so there is a adoption curve. Hosted Bitwarden with the rust variant option is an option to consider.
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bradley_taunt大约 3 年前
I’ve recently jumped the 1Password ship myself. I work mostly on Mac and iOS, so it was a no-brainer to switch to Secrets[0].<p>One time purchase, indie devs, support for use on Windows &#x2F; Linux etc. Been very happy thus far.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;outercorner.com&#x2F;secrets-mac&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;outercorner.com&#x2F;secrets-mac&#x2F;</a>
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markdown大约 3 年前
They lost my support when they switched to fucking subscriptions.<p>Bitwarden works fine.
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yashg大约 3 年前
Check out HexaVault.com. My product. Simple. Doesn&#x27;t store passwords in cloud. Stores on your device. Simple key&#x2F;value pair password manager.
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helpfulclippy大约 3 年前
I used to be a 1p fanboy, but the company has really deteriorated from my point of view. Once upon a time, my password data was stored entirely locally in a format that was well-documented and which I could access using tools like openssl. In other words, I could be confident that they really were encrypting my data at rest because I controlled my data and could interact with that encryption myself.<p>In time, they moved to a cloud-driven, subscription-based approach. I found this disconcerting since I could no longer see and control where my data was located or evaluate its encryption myself, but I was impressed enough with 1password&#x27;s track record to believe that it retained a strong security culture. They began emphasizing their web- and browser-extension-based options more, especially for Linux, for which they did not have a desktop client at the time.<p>Notably absent from this was an export feature. It remained in the Mac desktop app, but was completely missing from 1Password X. I noticed prominent 1password staff apologizing for the apparently unintentional lock-in situation created for some users by adding new platform support without also adding data export for those platforms. They promised it would be addressed soon. It wasn&#x27;t.<p>Last year, I went to evaluate whether it was even still possible to export passwords from the Mac client. I wanted to know that 1password was still a good tool, because my daughter was turning 10 and it was time to establish strong security habits. I wanted to be sure that what I was recommending still made sense. I was nervous. I had not actively used my Mac in years. I went to use the export feature, and found that it simply did not function. Extremely alarmed that I now had over 1,000 unique passwords stored in a database that I had no functioning means of exporting, I contacted support and outlined my issue and asked how I could get a plaintext copy of each of my passwords.<p>I received a reply from a self-described &quot;Astronomer of Support,&quot; who said:<p><pre><code> &quot;Can you please let me know a little more about why you are wanting to export your data? Once I get a better understanding, I would be glad to help further from there! :)&quot; </code></pre> I found this very troubling. I had supported 1password for years. I had recommended it to friends and family. I had bought it for some people. In a couple jobs, I required it of my reports. I did this on the belief that 1password had a strong value on privacy and security. I felt extremely foolish. While I had adopted 1password on the grounds that it had a locally-stored vault whose encryption was easy to audit, none of that was true anymore. The export feature I was told would be forthcoming on Linux had not materialized, and the feature on my Mac no longer functioned. 1password support was asking me to explain why I would even want access to my own data by some means other than their application in the first place.<p>I asked the support guy how this would affect his troubleshooting, and he told me he just wanted to understand my use case since plaintext exports are a security hazard. Then he told me to download and run a program to upload a substantial amount of information about my system. There was no question as to whether I was OK with this, or an offer of any alternative.<p>The answer, as it happened, was straightforward: I had an old version of 1password. I don&#x27;t know why having an out-of-date version stopped data export from functioning, but it did. I was able to troubleshoot that without relying on the lengthy dossier that 1password&#x27;s diagnostic tool had compiled, and the support guy could have done the same. Had 1password still been a company that valued people&#x27;s privacy, he probably would have simply asked me to double-check the version number in the very first e-mail, rather than ask me pointed questions about why I wanted my data anyway, or telling me to install new telemetry software and give all this new data over to him.<p>I wrote an email back to 1password support explaining my issues as a long-time customer who strongly values privacy. To their credit, they read and replied to my e-mail, mostly to tell me that they use end-to-end encryption and directing me to their whitepaper. I was offered a free year of service.<p>By then, I&#x27;d imported my data to self-hosted Bitwarden, and I&#x27;ve never looked back. And in the year since then, I&#x27;ve only heard more and more negative comments about 1password, a company that was once spoken of very highly in the places I hang out.
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jurmous大约 3 年前
I use Apple iCloud Keychain myself.<p>In recent times it was expanded with direct access from settings, TOTP support, notes per password etc.<p>And what maybe some people don’t know, it even has Windows support and a Chrome extension to use it within Chrome based browsers. (I myself am a Safari user though)<p>At least with iCloud Keychain I will be certain it is well integrated into my Apple devices.
rcarmo大约 3 年前
Again, my list of alternatives: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taoofmac.com&#x2F;space&#x2F;apps&#x2F;1password" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;taoofmac.com&#x2F;space&#x2F;apps&#x2F;1password</a><p>KeePass is looking better with every release, but I have switched to Secrets since I like the UX and don’t want to run any kind of sync service myself.
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junon大约 3 年前
I used 1password for maybe 7 years and the slew of recent changes and the slow deteriorating of their product quality, paired with the fact they ignore very simple features people have asked for for ages, made me switch to Bitwarden. It&#x27;s not as polished but at least I&#x27;m not wasting money.
judge2020大约 3 年前
&gt; I wish Apple Keychain is better so I can switch to use it completely.<p>This would be nice, but it&#x27;d need to be fully-featured, including Windows support (Linux too, but i&#x27;d be doubtful) and non-Safari password autofill support (or they could re-introduce Safari to Windows, i&#x27;d be fine with that).
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alphabettsy大约 3 年前
&gt; ...the Chrome extension stopped connecting to the native app randomly.<p>I’ve had this issue several times a year as long as I can remember so I’m not sure it’s related to anything new. Usually solved by restarting Chrome, sometimes 1P too.
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hisyam大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m using 1password 6 and the Chrome classic extension simply stops working recently. Restarting Chrome or my laptop doesn&#x27;t fix it.
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D13Fd大约 3 年前
I have zero problem with paying for a subscription. But if the app doesn&#x27;t work, I&#x27;m going somewhere else.
u2077大约 3 年前
I don’t know why anyone would put their passwords in the hands of any <i>subscription</i> service.
replwoacause大约 3 年前
Been loving Bitwarden for 2 years...
hammyhavoc大约 3 年前
Vaultwarden works nicely.
jlelse大约 3 年前
Just use Bitwarden.
2Gkashmiri大约 3 年前
Please use keepass.
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rvz大约 3 年前
Why not use Dashlane? At least they still have a desktop app for Mac (And it is not Electron) [0]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;dashlane-password-manager&#x2F;id517914548" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;dashlane-password-manager&#x2F;id51...</a>
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