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The Ivermectin Guys’ Whole Thing Has Fallen Apart

30 点作者 computer23大约 3 年前

9 条评论

mikem170大约 3 年前
This guy put together a great analysis of over two dozen ivermectin studies [0] and he found that the studies done in countries where intestinal worms are common giving ivermectin showed a benefit against covid, and that in countries where intestinal worms are not common ivermectin did not help with covid.<p>This makes sense because it is known that intestinal worms can compromise the immune system.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astralcodexten.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astralcodexten.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;ivermectin-much-more-t...</a>
quantified大约 3 年前
I heard a notion that I’d love to see followed up on, that places which believe ivermectin was working for them have a higher rate of parasitic infections to begin with, and suppressing these does improve COVID outcomes. Sort of lines up with the politics. Rural, not urban.
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Commodore63大约 3 年前
Weinstein et al work extra hard to push the narrative that traditional institutions are untrustworthy and discredited. But when stuff like this happens - rather than say &quot;mea culpa&quot;, they cry foul and invoke the specter of vast shadowy conspiracies (which they call the &quot;DISC&quot;, the Distributed Idea Suppression Complex).<p>Grifting hypocrites, the lot of them.
anamax大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m confused.<p>Let&#x27;s assume that Ivermectin is completely useless, not only against Covid-19 but other things that make Covid-19 more dangerous.<p>How do you get from there to an official campaign against it? Someone who takes Ivermectin on their nickel doesn&#x27;t stop anyone from producing or distributing something that does work.
hinkley大约 3 年前
For years every time I saw a forsythia bush flowering in the spring I would think of Jude Law&#x27;s disaster of a character in Contagion, complete with hearing his lisp in my head.<p>Then Covid happened, and I discovered that movie was so accurate that I&#x27;m not sure I have the stomach to watch it again.
TurkishPoptart大约 3 年前
And what? The CDC&#x27;s narrative has also fallen apart. Moderna is pushing to authorize a FOURTH mRNA injection for otherwise healthy young men who&#x27;ve received 3 shots and may have already had omicron and are immune.<p>This is contrary to WHO guidance in which the risk of heart problems outweigh the minor benefit of maybe not being hospitalized from contracting a strain of COVID-19 (delta) which has been eradicated thanks to the weaksauce omicron variant.<p>That is chaos.<p>The science is literally _years_ behind on this, and it&#x27;s clearer than ever that Pfizer and Moderna are trying to rake in as much $$$ as their FDA friends will allow them to.<p>First, do no harm.
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dreaminvm大约 3 年前
Not defending Ivermectin, but what do people have against trying alternative therapeutics for COVID? I rarely see articles bashing the &quot;other side&quot; for being wrong on many COVID decisions:<p>CDC flip-flopping on masks<p>CDC flip-flopping on how vaccine prevents spreads<p>Airplanes being the safest with high quality filters, yet they are the only place where masking is still required (which even the airlines disagree with)<p>CNN calling Ivermectin a horse dewormer, when Ivermectin has been administered to a large percentage of the global population<p>... the list goes on and on<p>*edit for formatting
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BlueTie大约 3 年前
Think of all the things that are Ivermectin-level questionable (cloth masks, 6ft, vaccinated don&#x27;t spread, 95% effective at preventing illness, airborne, etc.) that have negatively impacted far more people than a few nuts who decided to put all their eggs in the Ivermectin basket.<p>If you&#x27;re choosing to go after Joe Rogan and none of the proponents of the other points above, it seems fairly obvious that you&#x27;re ideologically motivated in your attack.
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logic_beats_pro大约 3 年前
The count of peer reviewed studies showing a benefit for the use of Ivermectin is now 62, and they can be found here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ivmmeta.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ivmmeta.com&#x2F;</a><p>The earlier the better of course, just like Tamiflu. The best results were attained when Ivermectin was used as a prophylactic.
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