TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

Execution by organ procurement: Breaching the dead donor rule in China

69 点作者 DantesKite大约 3 年前

5 条评论

DantesKite大约 3 年前
Twitter thread for context:<p>&quot;Doctors in China have been executing prisoners by extracting their hearts for transplantation, according to a new paper by myself and co-author Dr. Jacob Lavee in the American Journal of Transplantation.<p>we do a little thread about it.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;mpr0010&#x2F;status&#x2F;1511512871439462406?s=20&amp;t=Df5cKf1gfJHzlTSv3vuxgQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;mpr0010&#x2F;status&#x2F;1511512871439462406?s=20&amp;...</a>
giraffe_lady大约 3 年前
&gt; This is the only instance we are aware of where the medical profession in a country has collaborated closely, for decades, with the security apparatus to source and medically execute prisoners in order to traffic their organs.<p>I absolutely do not want to downplay this at all, this is a horrific crime against these individuals, their families, and human dignity anywhere.<p>I don&#x27;t think the close involvement of the doctors necessarily makes this worse. The idea that medical workers are uniquely constrained from certain actions is a cultural norm, and at least partially a myth. Medical horrors are abundant in recent history, and I think we need a stronger mechanism to prevent them than social norms.<p>It <i>is</i> interesting to note though that in the US, the medical profession&#x27;s (inconsistent) refusal to participate in executions has been one of the practical limits on capital punishment. There are a handful of states that would execute people, but no doctors will perform the necessary time-of-death procedures and so they don&#x27;t happen.<p>But this isn&#x27;t a cultural difference I don&#x27;t think. There are plenty of states where doctors don&#x27;t make that choice and executions proceed as desired by the state. There&#x27;s also for example Israel where it&#x27;s been an open secret since the 90s that organs are harvested from assassinated Palestinians.<p>Doctors potentially have a lot of power. I am grimly curious about the circumstances that lead them to either choice, since clearly there is not consensus across the profession even within a single country or culture.
评论 #30936141 未加载
ngcc_hk大约 3 年前
There is a reason why it is so worry about dna and blood scan in hk; silly you may say. But given political crime can also be death sentence and but if you were just a good donor to the leader in need and 1&#x2F;2 likely you are opposite to them, that will be .. sorry to say that<p>… kill two birds with one donation …<p>Do they have moral in Hans culture in spite of those kind talk of c, b and t? No I think. Given it is state sanction, it is just evil state and evil culture and evil race, unless some come up to object to these. Or just up to say it is fake news, west propaganda like Russia.<p>How many people has to die before we wake up to an evil 10x than Russia.
评论 #30940274 未加载
评论 #30931023 未加载
评论 #30932581 未加载
评论 #30931879 未加载
0xdeadb00f大约 3 年前
The headline of this alone is horrific
ammo1662大约 3 年前
Is it some kind of joke?<p>I did read all the text in the Appendix 2. the MS word file. And I also found and read some of the original papers. Do they even have some persons who read Chinese?<p>Some of the papers are descripting &quot;How to protect the organ during transplantation&quot;. They are not even case studies.<p>&gt; From these reports, we infer that violations of the DDR took place: given that the donors could not have been brain dead before organ procurement, the declaration of brain death could not have been medically sound<p>So all the brain dead donor cases are treated as DDR violation?
评论 #30941802 未加载