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Why You Should Hate the Treasury Bailout Proposal

19 点作者 furiouslol超过 16 年前

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colinplamondon超过 16 年前
The part I find ridiculous is that we're just giving the money away. Fact is, these institutions would collapse without a bailout- thus becoming effectively worthless, ala Bear Stearns.<p>If we're going to bail them out, we should nationalize them, that way we at least have the potential of making money from the upside.<p>Otherwise it's just a continuation of our current fiscal policy: socialism for the rich.
furiouslol超过 16 年前
<i>Anyway, I wanted to let you know that, behind closed doors, Paulson describes the plan differently. He explicitly says that it will buy assets at above market prices (although he still claims that they are undervalued) because the holders won't sell at market prices. Anna Eshoo pressed him on how the government can compel the holders to sell, and he basically dodged the question. I think that's because he didn't want to admit that the government would just keep offering more and more.</i>
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gills超过 16 年前
No, this is why you should hate it:<p>"Sec. 8. Review.<p>Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."<p>Please folks, call your congress-people. This is the kind of tyranny that caused the United States to form in the first place.<p>www.senate.gov www.house.gov
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DanielBMarkham超过 16 年前
Interesting article and source. Lots of material.<p>I've seen this criticized by both the left, right, and populists positions.<p>I DO think this article mischaracterizes the situation. The situation, as I understand it, is a crisis of confidence and liquidity. The impact was described to senior congressional leaders as being able to quickly spread to the entire credit industry. That means retail credit, auto loans, bridge loans -- everything that makes our system work was at risk of shutting down.<p>That's why the blank check: to buy unknown risk now and then auction it off later. I'm not getting into the politics of it, aside from simply stating I doubt Paulson is going off to buy his own country or moon base (which he could probably afford!) and that the more complicated you make the deal, the more you start defeating the entire purpose of an executive branch in the first place -- some things respond better to a single-decision-making point instead of a committee. But if you're worried, call your congressmen and by all means tell him/her how you feel.<p>My concern is I'm just not sure the fundamentals of the problem are being solved, and I wonder how you can fix something while keeping the system in place that caused the problem in the first place. In my opinion, this problem is just another normal swing in the capitalist system, whereby people looking to game the system figure out something that can't work long-term and the system eventually stresses out. We usually tweak the rules and we move towards a new excess in 10-20 years. I'm concerned that I'm not hearing anything about the "tweaking". As I understand it, Congress is going to be working through all of that.<p>It's going to be really hard for a committee made up of political hacks to publicly figure out what went wrong in the middle of an election cycle without degenerating in schoolyard name-calling. Oddly enough, it's much easier just to authorize Treasury to spend some money. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling, but I do think immediate action is necessary and I'm at least happy that Congress can come around to getting this one thing accomplished.
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quasimojo超过 16 年前
these will continue while we let unassailable yet unsupported statements be passed<p><i>this is too big to fail</i><p><i>the alternative would be worse</i><p><i>markets will never recover unless we act</i><p>now that we've handed over a blank check once in response to these issues, we'll be doing it again and again and again<p>fuck that, i'm liquid. put some of this shit on the auction block and i'll bid on it, yeah, the seller will take it up the shorts. but it will sell. will i buy ten bankrupt houses for $5k each without knowing if they are on a landfill? sure. so would others.