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Everyone should learn the slide rule (2021)

118 点作者 leonry大约 3 年前

17 条评论

bluenose69大约 3 年前
The article is over-the-top in lots of ways, which is a shame, because slide rules really <i>are</i> worth learning. I love them. Always have. I&#x27;ve designed several for calculations that are specific to my research field.<p>I would love to get my students using slide rules, but it&#x27;s difficult to find physical ones for a reasonable price. Virtual slide rules, like those at <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.antiquark.com&#x2F;sliderule&#x2F;sim&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.antiquark.com&#x2F;sliderule&#x2F;sim&#x2F;</a>, are just not quite the same as a physical thing, which requires force to slide, and good light to see the details.<p>I miss the days when you could go into any university bookstore and find sliderules in a wide range of prices. Another fond memory is watching my high-school teacher using a broomstick to move the slider on a giant sliderule he had above his blackboard.<p>What do students miss, using calculators? 1. Concrete notions of the difficulty of measurement, each digit being much harder to obtain than its predecessor. 2. A intuitive feeling for the propagation of uncertainty. 3. The ability to carry the exponents of 10 in their head.<p>Lacking this sort foundation seems to make it hard for people to connect their calculations, or numbers they read, with reality. This makes it hard to spot errors. It also makes it hard to remember things effectively. For example, I&#x27;ve found that students remember the mantissa of Avogadro&#x27;s number correctly to 3 digits, but they have no idea on the exponent. The same goes for the speed of light in a vacuum. These errors were rare in the sliderule age, because it was imperative to keep the exponent in your head, as you worked through a calculation.
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tgv大约 3 年前
Back in the day, when you asked an engineer, &quot;How much is 2 x 2&quot;, he&#x27;d whip out his slide rule, and reply confidently: &quot;approximately 3.99&quot;
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pfortuny大约 3 年前
A pity it is too snarky,<p>I agree with the thesis (it would be very nice to have children&#x2F;young people to know how to use it) but the tone is too negative.<p>I am a big fan of teaching children to use an abacus, also.
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bigbillheck大约 3 年前
&gt; It’s why engineers will do things like build a cantilever beam which requires finite element analysis instead of just building a fucking bridge.<p>Because bridges never collapsed due to faulty design before finite elements (Please ignore <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Quebec_Bridge#Second_design_and_collapse_of_September_11,_1916" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Quebec_Bridge#Second_design_an...</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Narrows_Crossing#Collapse" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Na...</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940)</a> and you get the picture).
gumby大约 3 年前
The thing about slide rules and RPN calculators is they are “close to the calculation”. Algebraic calculators are a level too far away. So you don’t find, or notice, bugs as easily.<p>The same problem applies to GPs navigators and their small phone screens. You don’t actually know where you are the way you did with a big map, so can’t intuit when things go wrong (e.g. you’re in a parking lot or in construction that the mapping app doesn’t know about).<p>The newer systems are great for people who already understand what’s going on. But when they are the first introduction to calculating or navigating they are actually a negative influence.
Blackstrat大约 3 年前
Way back in the dark ages of the 1970s when I was an undergrad at a major midwestern university, I blew several hundred dollars for a brand new TI calculator. Alas, it’s use was limited to homework and we were told we could use pencil and paper or we could buy a slide rule. As some here have noted, slide rules helped develop one’s sense of magnitude and estimation. BTW, my old 50 year TI calculator still works.
waynesonfire大约 3 年前
Can anyone recommend a slide rule?<p>I recently bought a vernier caliper and prefer it over digital and dial. I feel more connected with the measurements i make, hard to describe but I suspect the idea is similiar to some of the points the author makes about using a manual slide rule.<p>Few weeks ago I was watching a random video on YouTube published by matthias wendel and noticed the same vernier caliper sitting on the table in the background.
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drpixie大约 3 年前
Locklin&#x27;s basic point is about the important of thinking about the actual problem, instead of playing with tools further removed from the problem. And I can&#x27;t agree more.<p>The same applies to programming, and applies more and more as we get further removed from the essential problem and the underlying system. It used to be common (appalling but common) to see knowledgeable, experienced programmers give up on trying to understand a system, and to start a cycle of just-change-something, recompile, test... Eventually they&#x27;d come up with something that would pass the test and declare the bug &quot;fixed&quot; (for now).<p>Times change. Now we&#x27;ve got stackoverflow and copilot ... so we&#x27;ve got thousands (millions) of kiddies who have little concern for the problem or the system, because they focus on plugging in some code snippet. And the odds of those snippets being inappropriate, or adding further bugs, is overwhelmingly high.<p>We should all be concentrating on understanding the situation and the problem, not on producing any old answer or on passing a test suite.
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throw0101a大约 3 年前
The Professor Herning YT channel has a bunch of videos on both using slide rules and reviews&#x2F;comparisons of various ones:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;c&#x2F;ProfessorHerning&#x2F;videos" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;c&#x2F;ProfessorHerning&#x2F;videos</a><p>The &quot;Practical Slide Rule&quot; [0] and &quot;Basic slide rule theory and use&quot; [1] playlists are a good intro:<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PL_qcL_RF-Zyu6ugp3E2nB9xoTSwpy1G-F" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PL_qcL_RF-Zyu6ugp3E2nB...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PL_qcL_RF-ZyvJYtIr9NRXJX958d6BgdbN" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PL_qcL_RF-ZyvJYtIr9NRX...</a>
WalterBright大约 3 年前
I recall a class in metalworking, which started with the teacher handing each student a chunk of metal and a file. The task was to file out an end wrench. The point was to teach the students the feel of metalworking before introducing them to machine tools.
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dredmorbius大约 3 年前
The slide-rule cursor --- the usually clear plastic slider with a line from which calculations are read --- is what gave us the word &quot;cursor&quot; in its computer sense --- the line or box indicating the current input point on a computer, or also in a somewhat less well-known use in database applications.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.etymonline.com&#x2F;word&#x2F;cursor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.etymonline.com&#x2F;word&#x2F;cursor</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.essentialsql.com&#x2F;database-cursor&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.essentialsql.com&#x2F;database-cursor&#x2F;</a>
kurupt213大约 3 年前
It would probably be better for everyone if we learned to do math&#x2F;science with the slide rule instead of a super powered HP graphing calculator. I kept my HP48GX from a sophomore in HS through university. I can’t even use a regular calculator efficiently because I’m hardwired to use the stack and RPN’s order of operation. When the 48 gave up the ghost, I bought the new primo one when I went back to school for PhD… mainly for basic calculations. I have the non graphical scientific HP calculator, but I like seeing the stack on the screen
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ben_bai大约 3 年前
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ecornflak大约 3 年前
Its a little off-topic, but my dad passed away last year and left behind a collection of about 40 slide rules.<p>Aside from his personal slide rule from university and his first job (working at ICL in Manchester designing multiplier boards for mainframes) I don&#x27;t really want the rest of the collection.<p>Does anyone else want them?
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nanna大约 3 年前
Anyone have tips on learning to use a side rule?
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rjsw大约 3 年前
I have a 3&quot; pocket slide rule that belonged to my grandfather.
iammjm大约 3 年前
I get the idea of there being something valuable to doing stuff manually and that corporeal activities are something that engages us humans potentially more than screens. But the rest of the article - yikes. Clearly written by a boomer that believes himself to be superior just because he grew up using tools that nowadays are mostly unknown. The article is one sided, hyperbolic, unnecessarily combative and if there is a good point in it then it is mostly lost among the author&#x27;s rants. Bottom line is this: both the slide rule and CAD are tools, corporeal or not, and both serve the purpose of helping us achieve our goals. Instead of a Luddite reaction towards all things digital and a fetishization of a fucking ruler, why not use both according to the current scenario?