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Is it the “New York Review of Each Other’s Books”?

131 点作者 Jerry2大约 3 年前

25 条评论

returningfory2大约 3 年前
Having a &quot;clubby&quot; culture is one explanation, but another factor could be that the NYRB just gets very high profile contributors. For example Zadie Smith has written essays for the NYRB, while also being the subject of reviews. Does this mean Zadie Smith is a part of the club? Or that NYRB is just able to get high profile authors like Smith to write for them?<p>I&#x27;m sure you could run the same experiment with e.g. prestigious math journals. There is probably a significant overlap between authors and reviewers.
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zoolily大约 3 年前
While most comments focus on fiction, I find the real value of the NYRB for me are the reviews of nonfiction books. These reviews go into much more depth than reviews in other places and often compare and contrast multiple books on the same topic. The nonfiction reviews are great for both finding books to read and learning enough about a topic so that you can decide that you don&#x27;t need to read a book on that topic.
zwieback大约 3 年前
Maybe not entirely a bad thing, if one plumber says that this other plumber is good I assume he knows what he&#x27;s talking about. The flipside, of course, is that a mutual appreciation society excludes interesting outsiders.
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michaelt大约 3 年前
Private Eye periodically reports on &quot;log rolling&quot; in book reviews - where an author approached by a journalist will recommend books with the same publisher, or the same publicist, or the same agent.<p>So I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if one found a similar pattern across the entire publishing industry.
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21723大约 3 年前
This is just the beginning when it comes to the sausage-making that goes into &quot;book buzz&quot; (which is anything but organic, because the people who generate it don&#x27;t actually read most of the books they&#x27;re paid to talk about) and the major reviews. It gets a lot worse. Publishers choose a priori which books are going to be bestsellers and which ones are there just to make the lead titles shine by comparison.<p>Reader word-of-mouth doesn&#x27;t really get a voice in the traditional book world, because it&#x27;s slow, because reading takes time... and it&#x27;s not publishers who started this fire, but the chain bookstores who abused the consignment model (Great Depression hangover) and invented the 8-week rotation. Publishers actually do care about the future of literature and being decent to the authors they&#x27;re publishing... but these days if the chain bookstores don&#x27;t like your numbers, you&#x27;re dead after two months on the shelf (and will be difficult for publishers to place in the future)... and the economics of the whole system follow from that.<p>If you&#x27;re not going to be a lead title--and that depends on who your agent is, not the quality of your book, and your odds of even <i>being read</i> (let alone represented) by that kind of agent are less than 1% no matter how good your book is--then you&#x27;re going to find traditional publishing experience extremely disappointing. The current system is based on selling huge numbers of copies (or not) in the first couple months, not on producing evergreen titles or building audiences.<p>That said, reader word-of-mouth does get a voice in the long term, and self-publishing is a better option if you can afford it. (It costs about $20 per kiloword to do it right, though; you have to hire at least one editor, preferably two, as well as a cover designer.) You won&#x27;t get reviewed by famous people, because you don&#x27;t benefit from the network of &quot;Do X or the next call is from my boss to your boss&quot; phone calls that run NYC publishing, but you&#x27;ll have more creative control and probably make more money in the long term.
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cafard大约 3 年前
The National Lampoon once did a &quot;New York Review of Us&quot; issue. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;magazineparody.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;national-lampoon-parodies-1970-2006&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;magazineparody.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;28&#x2F;national-lampoon-parod...</a> says that this was in January 1976.)
FatalLogic大约 3 年前
Sounds like peer review? It&#x27;s difficult to find people who can provide an informed analysis of an activity unless you choose from amongst people who can do that activity themselves
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swatcoder大约 3 年前
This is a beautifully long-winded way of confirming that &quot;Literature&quot; is simply a genre that people confuse for quality.<p>The people who write books that get featured in NYRB and the New Yorker, that come up through Iowa, etc, are the people that know that genre well. So of course they&#x27;re welcome critics of it.<p>If you like the stuff that NYRB features, then you&#x27;ll eat up reviews by those same authors. It would be silly for NYRB not to invite those reviews. Every other genre publication does the same thing.<p>It&#x27;s only a problem if you let yourself buy into the idea that this style of work is more than an upper middle class fashion.
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cameldrv大约 3 年前
NYRB in the nineties when I was reading it was absolutely amazing. I can say that my life and my tastes would be different without it. In the 2000s it got much thinner. The articles were shorter, and under GWB it veered much more into politics. The editors felt that they had to spend their cultural capital on politics under the circumstances, but they spent a lot.<p>Many years later I got to see the premiere of Scorsese&#x27;s documentary with Bob Silvers in attendance and it&#x27;s a cherished memory.
notacoward大约 3 年前
Don&#x27;t similar &quot;revolving doors&quot; exist in just about every industry, including tech?
browningstreet大约 3 年前
The manner of NYRB book reviews -- essays often covering &#x27;n&#x27; related books on a given topic, are also more specific to NYRB&#x27;s formula. Form and function...<p>The length of their reviews &amp; essays isn&#x27;t common among other, similar lit rags.
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bryanrasmussen大约 3 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slate.com&#x2F;culture&#x2F;2001&#x2F;08&#x2F;one-cheer-for-cheering.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slate.com&#x2F;culture&#x2F;2001&#x2F;08&#x2F;one-cheer-for-cheering.htm...</a> - first line &quot;Spy magazine had a column titled “Logrolling in Our Time,” devoted to exposing authors who traded good reviews back and forth. &quot; which I remember, it was pretty funny sometimes.
z1nc大约 3 年前
Good writers probably do have the best insight on what the best books are, but that&#x27;s a clear conflict of interest. It also gives less visibility to new or &quot;indie&quot; writers.<p>Some sites, such as Drive Thru RPG, do not allow you to leave reviews if you are a publisher, presumably to avoid this conflict. Folks can certainly log on with their personal account, but at least it is some level of accountability.
bhouston大约 3 年前
This is the same as paper reviewers for academic journals. The reviewer are usually authors whose work has been accepted into the journal. And then you build up better contacts and also you know how the review process works intimately and this are more likely to get papers accepted.<p>(I was published in and then a reviewer for an academic journal.)
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rendall大约 3 年前
I looked carefully, but did not find in the article what is expected. Is the contention that authors who do not contribute do not get reviewed? Or that otherwise successful authors are excluded?
earthboundkid大约 3 年前
I once went to dinner with some NYRB reviewers and was thoroughly impressed that yes, it’s the New York Review of Each Other’s Books. I haven’t given it any respect since.<p>LARB is much better in my opinion.
gxqoz大约 3 年前
&quot;Wow, who is this Ralph Manheim guy I&#x27;ve never heard of and why is NYRB obsessed with him?&quot; Oh, apparently he&#x27;s a translator.
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AndyMcConachie大约 3 年前
It&#x27;s only as incestuous as academia :)
jgalt212大约 3 年前
How come directors don&#x27;t write movie reviews, but book authors commonly write book reviews?
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lordgrenville大约 3 年前
Nice touch having the graphs use the NYRB font. Anyone know what it is?
jo6gwb大约 3 年前
Neal Stephenson has a great perspective on this is his book Some Remarks.
spoonjim大约 3 年前
I’m sure Physical Review Letters is an even more connected graph.
MrMan大约 3 年前
anyone remember the column &quot;long-rolling in our time&quot; a column in Spy magazine which named and shamed this self-same behavior?
curious_cat_163大约 3 年前
Why is this an important question?
coldtea大约 3 年前
It is the public media culture of scatching each other&#x27;s back