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Godel's Proof

4 点作者 daly大约 3 年前
Godel showed that it is impossible to formally prove the consistency of a system of arithmetic WITHIN that system of arithmetic.<p>Given a static system that is clearly true.<p>However, I claim a self-modifying system can extend itself to &quot;look down&quot; on the initial system of arithmetic.<p>I&#x27;m not sure how to show this yet. My intuition is leaning toward using the standard trick of towers of types. Is it possible to show a system of arithmetic is consistent using higher order types?<p>Which raises the question of self-modifying Turing machines. This leads to the concept of a meta-Turing machine.<p>Not only must the &quot;instructions of the machine&quot; be &quot;on the tape&quot; so they can be modified but the &quot;structure of the hardware&quot; also has to be &quot;on the tape&quot; so that changing the &quot;structure&quot; changes the way the machine operates. A simple implementation can be created in an FPGA which generates modifications to its own Verilog definition and reloads itself, becoming a fundamentally different machine.

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timonoko大约 3 年前
That is &quot;The Most Beautiful Program Ever Written&quot; - issue. Because I am stupid, I have to think very hard. Are we defining a language using the language itself or what?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;OyfBQmvr2Hc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;OyfBQmvr2Hc</a>
suture大约 3 年前
The first order theory of arithmetic is provably consistent within ZFC. ZFC can’t prove it’s consistency but a “higher” system containing ZFC can prove that ZFC is consistent. So on and so forth.