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Plagiarized in a plagiarism atonement essay

218 点作者 notmysql_大约 3 年前

30 条评论

freeopinion大约 3 年前
Completely unrelated plagiarism story:<p>Right now is the end of the school year for many schools in the USA. That makes it a time for final exams for many students. This week a student I know prepared for the Literature final by reading through the SparkNotes for the book they had read earlier. Then the student took some SparkNotes practice tests on the book. Then the student showed up to take the actual final exam.<p>The final exam was verbatim the SparksNotes practice test--uncredited.
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eganist大约 3 年前
&gt; What does upset me is a simple fact: No one contacted me about this.<p>&gt; Not Bello herself, not the staff at LitHub, not the journalist who wrote the Gawker piece and not even any of the readers of that piece. While I clearly found it fine on my own, the fact that there has been zero outreach is, in a word, surprising.<p>Because few people care about the victim, and everyone seems to obsess over the perpetrator.<p>I don&#x27;t know how well the far more severe crimes in our society map in this context, but at least with serial or spree killings, there&#x27;s an effort to take attention away from the perpetrator due to media fixation on them and instead redirecting it towards healing the injuries (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dontnamethem.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dontnamethem.org&#x2F;</a>). I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s exactly 1 for 1, but I think the sociological mechanics are probably the same here:<p>If it&#x27;s not local to the reader, the reader is more likely to be fascinated by the perpetrator rather than go out of their way to heal the injured, or learn from the happening in any tangible way.
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kieckerjan大约 3 年前
Trigger warning: shameless (but pertinent) brag coming up.<p>In my first year of college I had to write a short essay for an English course. I was rather lazy as well as a fan of wordplay so I wrote an essay describing the life and work of an obscure 19th-century philosopher, who also happened to be completely fictional. Since I could just pull the &quot;facts&quot; out of my ass, it was easy to write.<p>A week later I was called in by the English department and had a sit down with two grim looking teachers. They confronted me with suspicions of plagiarism. Most of their case was built on my use of the word &quot;gamut&quot;, which they thought a 19-year-old non-native speaker was not supposed to know. I was incensed (as well as flattered), but they only relented after I pointed out that the essay was an acrostic. The first letters of the paragraphs spelled the word &quot;humbug&quot;.
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bryanrasmussen大约 3 年前
My opposite of plagiarism anecdote, where I still didn&#x27;t do the work but got credit for it.<p>When I went to High School in Utah it was after going to a really advanced Junior High in Oregon, and I was very spoiled and felt that the work was boring and beneath me.<p>One of the classes I took I should have been grateful for as a dream class for a kid like me, it was a class on reading Science Fiction and Fantasy where you had to write a book report on the books read (once a week, once every two weeks? don&#x27;t remember, maybe once per month).<p>I generally read a book every day or two, and I wrote quite quickly so it shouldn&#x27;t have been difficult. But I found these book reports difficult to write because they had a template for how they wanted the reports written that I found insulting to the books I had read, if I had read a book I liked I didn&#x27;t want to insult it that way, and if I read a book I didn&#x27;t like I didn&#x27;t want to think about it any more.<p>So I hit on the expedient solution of writing book reports on fake books, I don&#x27;t remember any of the books other than one that was a stereotypical Fantasy quest to stop the dark lord thing, called &quot;The Hinterlands of Horlon&quot; ugh, of course I gave it a negative review with some bright spots just keep anyone from being interested in reading it.<p>Didn&#x27;t get found out though.
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22c大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m not sure if it&#x27;s some sort of anti-plagiarism fingerprinting technique, but this article reads as though random words have been deleted from it.<p>&gt; “I’m interested stories of redemption…”<p>(I checked the source and there is an &#x27;in&#x27; in the original.)<p>&gt; that seemed to be very what this essay was about<p>&gt; essay is over 4,500 long.<p>&gt; writing process wasn’t the focus essay<p>&gt; focuses heavily on the struggles of her over the year
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VyseofArcadia大约 3 年前
&gt; Bello was a hotly anticipated new author that was preparing to publish her first book<p>I don&#x27;t know anything about the inner workings of the biz. How does someone who hasn&#x27;t published her first book yet become hotly anticipated? I get the second book being hotly anticipated, but the first?
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Borrible大约 3 年前
When necessary, I happily plagiarize answers from Stackoverflow the whole day long. However, I shy away from recursive structures. They may be meta and cool but not always efficient.<p>I was once approached by a young job recruiter. Since I am a fan of literary and linguistic issues and he had a master&#x27;s degree in German studies, I googled for his master&#x27;s thesis. Interesting topic, which I will leave unnamed here because.... Because I found an Austrian bachelor&#x27;s thesis posted online ten years before this master&#x27;s thesis, by a different person but with the same topic. And in my opinion with a quite similar structure and analog passages. Since my interest was piqued, I researched further and found the doctoral thesis of the professor who had supervised the master&#x27;s thesis. Another twenty years older. It was based on the same book as the master&#x27;s thesis and the baccalaureate thesis with a broadly related topic, though of course much more in-depth and expanded. Unfortunately, the book was not &#x27;Felix Krull&#x27;.<p>All three writings, however, were, in my opinion, excellent in terms of craftsmanship.<p>As Nietzsche taught us, nothing is true everything is permitted.
robocat大约 3 年前
&gt; At the time, she told herself, “I’m just borrowing and changing the language. I will rewrite these parts later during the editorial phase. I will make this story mine again.”<p>We are taught how to plagiarise at university; where it is encouraged, and, you are marked on how well you do it. Paraphrasing is demanded of you. Repeating in your own words the content of other sources. Good marks for regurgitating the ideas of others with a false patina of creativity: rephrasing, synthesizing and summarizing your source material.<p>It is a foul process with a false idol at its core: placing dishonest &quot;creativity&quot; on a pedestal, artistic license instead of honest copying of the source material, a sham instead of giving the source proper recognition.<p>The real world mostly values execution, not a conceptual hall of mirrors, not ideas continuously warped and reflected with gross academic variations.<p>Edit: &quot;Plagiarise in your own words (citation please)&quot; would be a way to say it ;-)
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cycomanic大约 3 年前
I would argue that Tools like turnitin et al and their use of a &quot;plagiarism score&quot; are at least partially to blame. Teachers already in high-school seem to often tell students to self check and that &quot;a score above 20&quot; (arbitrary number) will result in a fail, as if some percentage of plagiarism is ok.<p>I was shocked when I took over a thesis course and students were asking what was the acceptable score. They also told me that students had failed previously due to a too high score because turnitin picked up the reference list as plagiarised. Now this is clearly the fault of teachers, but the increasing demands on them, plus the turnitin advertising to easy the burden by making this score is also partly to blame IMO.
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sircastor大约 3 年前
This is adjacent, but I’ve wondered how close we are to having these automated plagiarism detection systems start identifying large numbers of false positives. Especially as they adopt machine learning, and they let their fuzzy matches get a little more aggressive.<p>Part of the problem with plagiarism in the abstract is that much of the work being submitted is not novel. Every one of us has been taught to read something, and then regurgitate it in a mildly different form to prove our successful learning of it. And our schools are spending tax dollars to buy access to these systems.
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zw123456大约 3 年前
I heard about this on &quot;Wait Wait Don&#x27;t Tell Me&quot; show on NPR last weekend <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;programs&#x2F;wait-wait-dont-tell-me&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;programs&#x2F;wait-wait-dont-tell-me&#x2F;</a> in the fool the listener segment, probably because it was so unbelievable.
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isaacfrond大约 3 年前
I&#x27;m not sure, we need to get worked up about his. An actual example of the so-called <i>plagiarizing</i> is given here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gawker.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;jumi-bellos-lithub-essay-about-plagiarism-looks-very-plagiarized" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gawker.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;jumi-bellos-lithub-essay-about-...</a><p>In Bello’s article, for example, she wrote the following:<p><i>Plagiarism has been with us since the birth of language and art. For as long as there have been words to be read, there has been someone there copying the passages. It goes as far back as 8 AD with the poet Martial who caught another poet Fidentinus reciting his work. He called Fidentinus a plagiarus, meaning a “kidnapper.”</i><p>Compare that to this 2011 article in Plagiarism Today, titled “The World’s First ‘Plagiarism’ Case.”<p><i>Plagiarism, the act of taking another’s work and passing it off as your own, has almost certainly been with us since the dawn of artwork and written language. For as long as there has been art and artists, there have been people who have put their name to it incorrectly.</i><p><i>But while the act of plagiarism is as old as time, the word “plagiarism” is not. The etymology of the word plagiarism is an interesting one and its history actually dates back to the first century AD and involves a Roman poet and his literary “kidnappers” who became the subject of a literary beating.</i>
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klodolph大约 3 年前
The story about how Jumi Bello ended up plagiarizing her way through college and a Iowa Writer’s Workshop fellowship is interesting. Her debut novel and subsequent apology were not her first time plagiarizing.<p>She reportedly plagiarized during college, but was able to manipulate people into letting her get away with it. It would have been better to fail fast, fail early, recover soon, than to get away with plagiarism until this late in the game and then get caught so publicly.
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rpmisms大约 3 年前
I can&#x27;t imagine writing in the style that the guilty party utilizes. If I am writing a piece, it&#x27;s either soulless corporate drivel or something I genuinely care about. My substack is not high-quality, but it&#x27;s definitely me. I&#x27;ve never copy-pasted something there that wasn&#x27;t in a block quote.<p>Just sits wrong that it&#x27;s possible for people to do that and feel good about it.
macintux大约 3 年前
&gt; In short, Bello, an author who admitted to plagiarizing in her now-cancelled debut novel, wrote an article about the experience and, in that article, included poor paraphrasing without attribution of an article that I wrote over a decade ago.<p>When I was a teenager I collected a couple of head-scratchers like this. I’d say they were ironic but I’d be afraid of being wrong.<p>First: visited church with my grandparents, received a typewritten postcard a week or two later. Quote: “Thank you for visiting our church last Sinday.”<p>Second: was listening to my favorite radio station, a local university-run station. One of the students who ran it read an editorial about complaints regarding pronunciation. She defended the personalities, said they were after all just students.<p>The irony: she repeatedly mispronounced “mispronunciation”.<p>I was 14 at the time, so didn’t have the courage to call and point that out, but I have to assume someone did.
renewiltord大约 3 年前
Written text quotations are so overly intrusive into prose. I&#x27;m totally onboard with wholesale sampling and remixing of other texts, but it is essential to provide a footnote marker on the text or something.<p>Personally, I love All Along the Watchtower by Bob Dylan and like the Jimi Hendrix version. And I love all these EDM remixes of the old classics. Losing my Religion hits different when it&#x27;s powered by a sick beat.<p>Anyway, if there was just some pleasant way to remix by just sticking them in a chapter footnote or a page footnote rather than having to explicitly say &quot;It&#x27;s a lie to make up a text like BLOCKQUOTE As Ursula Le Guin says BLOCKQUOTE The moon is a harsh mistress is a terrible book especially when Heinlein says BLOCKQUOTE There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him&quot;
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kuroguro大约 3 年前
Self-plagiarizing anecdote: in uni we had a subject called &quot;Technical English&quot; where we had to learn amazing words like &quot;printer&quot; among other things. Obviously nobody took it seriously. About 5 minutes before class I realized a short powerpoint presentation was due that day on some &quot;technical subject&quot;.<p>Fortunately our teacher was substituted and we had done a presentation like it before. So I took my last presentation, changed the name to something vaguely different (as I knew it would be written down), repeated my last presentation word for word and no one was the wisest. Saw a few grins as my classmates started realizing what&#x27;s going on ^^;<p>_edit_<p>I&#x27;m not from an English speaking country in case anyone is wondering.
bloak大约 3 年前
A very common form of plagiarism on the Internet is people copying transcriptions of public-domain works without mentioning where they copied them from. You know it&#x27;s happening because you see the same transcription errors repeated on dozens of web sites. (Of course there is no copyright violation here.)<p>A very common case of copying without attribution is in contracts and policies, which are nearly always adapted from existing documents. Probably this doesn&#x27;t count as plagiarism because nobody expects these things to be original, authors are not named, and there is no tradition of citing sources. (However, in many cases it probably is copyright violation, even if nobody cares to complain about it.)
dariosalvi78大约 3 年前
while it is clear that Bello borrowed the text from the blog, she did paraphrase it to a good degree. I struggle to call it plagiarism, but, yes, I would have definitely cited the original source.<p>The thing with plagiarism is that it&#x27;s either (almost) verbatim or it&#x27;s not plagiarism, because, otherwise, everything is plagiarism. That&#x27;s how culture and ideas work.
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paulpauper大约 3 年前
I plagiarized a few times in high school to get out of deadlines for work I didn&#x27;t care to do. I would copy paste the the essay on Word from a CliffsNotes-type site and rewrite some of it, rearrange some sentences and insert typos to make it look legit. Got As and passed the class. This was a long time ago, before it was possible to easily check this stuff. But in college? no way. they are way smarter at checking that stuff. Considering how much businesses delegate, I don&#x27;t see the harm of letting people do it it. I think it&#x27;s only wrong if someone is paying for original content or there is the expectation of original content through the implicit trust between the reader and the writer.
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ghaff大约 3 年前
One interesting aspect of plagiarism is self-plagiarism which is often OK but sometimes not. Copy over some boilerplate description or background to a new document sure. Even write a book that&#x27;s draws in part from published blog posts? Sure, as long as you have the copyright.<p>(I once wrote a book that was based in part on reworked blog posts from various places. When I submitted for Kindle, it got flagged. But I submitted some links and everything was OK.)<p>On the other hand, if someone commissions me to write an article on something, I generally speaking shouldn&#x27;t reuse much directly from past articles.
taylorius大约 3 年前
Am resisting the urge to grab someone&#x27;s comment from here, change a couple of words, and repost it as my own &quot;related plagiarism story&quot;. ;-)
wly_cdgr大约 3 年前
There&#x27;s a good post-mortem of the whole brew-ha-ha on his blog, also
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password4321大约 3 年前
TL;DR: Author who earns a living documenting plagiarism commits to care more about the victims of plagiarism in the future after becoming one and discovering firsthand how little their side of the story is covered.<p>Am I getting that right?
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cat_plus_plus大约 3 年前
Most worthless obsession in the world. Imitation is the best form of flattery. If the issue is royalties&#x2F;grants&#x2F;ego, these days ML systems can easily detect significant copying and auto-attach credits. If you are riled up by a middle school student copying a paragraph of your prose for an assignment, get a grip!
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cycomanic大约 3 年前
It&#x27;s a bit ironic how the author talks about how to avoid plagiarism by not copying sections verbatim to later rewrite them, while at the same time the author seems to have done this himself, when taking passages from his history of plagiarism article for a piece he wrote for turnitin.<p>Now he was copying his own words, so the ethics are somewhat murkier. I would still argue it&#x27;s bad form to do this for a work for hire like the turnitin piece. Moreover it seems he also does not follow his own advice of not taking passages from other texts for later rewriting.
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trevcanhuman大约 3 年前
It just baffles how much effort as humans of modern education and academia have put into being super mad for using other people&#x27;s ideas. Sure, I agree that this guy is somewhat the victim and she shouldn&#x27;t have done that.<p>But really, how is it that we&#x27;ve come so far as a society and just scream at things like these ? Isn&#x27;t knowledge supposed to be shared ? Even if it&#x27;s not properly attributed ? There are plenty of misattributions in Mathematics, theorems who people did not create or develop at all, yet their name has been recited for years and years in elementary and middle schools. Yet teachers will say that plagiarism is bad! But hey, don&#x27;t worry if we call this theorem like this because this is ok and it&#x27;s actually not plagiarism. We&#x27;re literally just regurgitating ideas, as several commenters have said (good luck getting the primary sources for my comment lol).<p>Also, should my ideas be considered plagiarized even when I thought of them before someone else published them ? Interesting dilema, at least for me.
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rasengan0大约 3 年前
&gt;That is not how writing works, and it is an idea Bello needs to disabuse herself of. [1]<p>It&#x27;s refreshing to see a lack of critique or commentary to the above statement with regards to gender, race, mental status, or any other categorization. But plagiarism does not appear to be a universal violation of ethics when discovered. [2]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.plagiarismtoday.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;05&#x2F;09&#x2F;plagiarism-today-plagiarized-in-a-plagiarism-atonement-essay&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.plagiarismtoday.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;05&#x2F;09&#x2F;plagiarism-today-...</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Plagiarism" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Plagiarism</a>
harry8大约 3 年前
&quot;Victim&quot; is an interesting word to use here. Is the author really a &quot;victim?&quot; I don&#x27;t see how they have been hurt but can see how they have been helped by being plagiarised. I can see how someone stealing work and claiming it as their own and accepting the rewards of money &amp; status they did not earn can cause someone to be a victim.<p>&gt; I got an alert from WordPress that my site stats were “booming”.<p>Doesn&#x27;t seem like it here.<p>Plagiarize! Let noone else&#x27;s work evade your eyes. [1]<p>[1] Plagiarised because I&#x27;m not telling you where it&#x27;s from. Wooo.
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honkler大约 3 年前
The fact that people care more about the perpetrators of plagiarism, than it&#x27;s victim tells me it&#x27;s not really a crime.<p>Think about it. If you saw someone holding a blood-covered knife in their hand, and an angry look on their face, you would be able to guess he&#x2F;she committed a murder. But then, your next thought would be to know who was murdered?<p>But this does not seem to be the case with plagiarism. Perhaps because victim is not really the victim. It&#x27;s just a way for people to obtain some schadenfreude. In the same way that the mob involved in a mob lynching does not do it for victim, or &quot;justice&quot;, but plainly to get pleasure out of the act.
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