I've been trying to figure out what makes this interview so good. Most Charlie Rose interviews are good, but this one has something different. I think it's that both of them are really trying to figure out what made Jobs work, because they're both ambitious guys themselves and they want to learn from his example. Usually when Charlie's asking someone questions it's because he wants to know what's going on in the world. But here he wants to know for his own sake, because he wants to do great work, and so does Isaacson. So this is like watching two athletes talking about Michael Jordan.