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Brave Search passes 2.5B queries, allows users to choose search rankings

281 点作者 quick_brown_fox将近 3 年前

29 条评论

dang将近 3 年前
Ongoing related thread:<p><i>Brave Search Goggles: Alter search rankings with rules and filters</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31837986" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31837986</a> - June 2022 (45 comments)
user3939382将近 3 年前
It’s funny how brand reputation and impression works.<p>I do not remember every story that has been posted about Brave since its inception. I always remember my emotional takeaway, which is that I don’t trust it.<p>My fuzzy memory on it is: something about brokering my private data, which I never want shared period, something about optimizing my relationship with ads which I want nothing to do with, something about a crypto scam.
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endisneigh将近 3 年前
Good stuff, however comparisons to duck and Google for first billion users is misleading since internet use has exploded exponentially since last decade. You’d expect it to be easier to get more nominal use.<p>Also, as much as I dislike ads I think web3&#x2F;crypto grifting is worse. I feel ambivalent =\.<p>I’m curious to read how Goggles is architected technically. Allowing anyone to create their own defacto index seems intractable with Google level performance.
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upupandup将近 3 年前
Does anybody find the constant promotion of Brave on HN annoying? Everytime I look at comments its the same handles who are also pro-crypto<p>I can&#x27;t take a browser serious when there are conflict of interset especially monetary ones in promoting it in public.
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arberx将近 3 年前
I&#x27;ve used Brave search exclusively for the last couple of months, and I have to say it&#x27;s been the best replacement for Google I&#x27;ve ever tried.<p>Excited to see it grow and improve!
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mrpf1ster将近 3 年前
I have tried using Brave Search (as well as DuckDuckGo) as alternatives to Google but I always had to keep switching back to using Google with the !g bang.<p>Recently however I have been using Kagi and I think I have found the one search engine that is better than google.<p>It has been great in every query, allows a ton of customization of ranking, and the people behind it make the Orion browser as well which has been my main driver.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagi.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagi.com</a>
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boulos将近 3 年前
So... about 160 qps? (Using the 5B queries annualized). Even if you multiply by 10 to account for a very high peak to average, that&#x27;s sub-2000.<p>I wish companies wouldn&#x27;t try to make something seem big by using &quot;billions&quot;. It took me billions of nanoseconds to write this comment...
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ahmadmijot将近 3 年前
I recently install Brave and when I used it for a few hours I didn&#x27;t realise the default search engine is not Google! Only after a few &#x27;quirkiness&#x27; results that I realised I used Brave Search.<p>Now I only switch to Google Search once in a while.
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Daunk将近 3 年前
I think Brave Search is better than DuckDuckGo, especially when searching for &quot;local&quot; places. The only problem I have is that it&#x27;s about twice as slow as DuckDuckGo at best, and about 5 times as slow at worst.
silverPoodle将近 3 年前
I love the search engine of Brave, because it&#x27;s the first privacy-friendly alternative to Google, which competes with the quality of search results.<p>DuckDuckGo, Qwant and similar search engines never give me so good results.
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OJFord将近 3 年前
&gt; Transparency: We don’t censor, bias, filter, or downrank results (unless legally required to)<p>Is it me or does the description not match the bullet? To me &#x27;transparency&#x27; would be &#x27;we detail on this page exactly how we bias&#x2F;filter&#x2F;downrank results (except where legally required not to)&#x27;.<p>Second point somewhat implicit in the first: how can a search engine be said not to bias&#x2F;filter&#x2F;downrank results? That&#x27;s the whole job? I think what they mean is they have some generic algorithm, and there&#x27;s no special casing going on to further political or social ideals etc.?<p>Circling back to the first - I think you can even do that (if you want) and claim transparency, you just have to say &#x27;we aggressively downrank anything to do with XY rights&#x27; or whatever, and it might not be what everyone wants but it will be transparent?
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elektor将近 3 年前
Not a big fan of Brave the browser but am excited to see Brave Search flourish!
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mhh__将近 3 年前
I have I&#x27;d estimate one issue (e.g. requiring quotes or site search) using Google a week.<p>When I try brave I estimate it&#x27;s one impedence-mismatch a day. Not a bad product but reports of googles demise are overstated.
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zionic将近 3 年前
I’ve been really happy with Brave search for the ~2 months I’ve been using it
tiffanyh将近 3 年前
&gt; Brave Search Passess 2.5B queries in its first year<p>As a comparison, DDG did 35B queries last year.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duckduckgo.com&#x2F;traffic" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duckduckgo.com&#x2F;traffic</a>
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nicodjimenez将近 3 年前
Congrats to the Brave team on building a great product I hope there is a sustainable business model behind it.
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ta8645将近 3 年前
Switched to Brave when DDG revealed its focus on politics. It has been a very pleasant transition, and I haven&#x27;t missed the !g bang as much as anticipated. Turns out falling back to Google isn&#x27;t needed nearly as often with Brave as it was with DDG.
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fritigern将近 3 年前
I don&#x27;t know why, but I had a very negative impression of Brave for a long time. I still haven&#x27;t tried their browser, but the search is suprisingly good! It also uses their own web index, which I find to be very impressive.
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stuckinhell将近 3 年前
I&#x27;ve been trying it. It&#x27;s better than most search engines, I only shift to google for tech related things these days.<p>This feature seems pretty incredible for searching specific domains. I&#x27;m excited for it.
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juddlyon将近 3 年前
I’ve been using Brave + Startpage for a few years on mobile. I couldn’t get used to DDG or other search engines. Adblocking is quite good but also catches legit some tooltips and modals.
lmg643将近 3 年前
i love brave, it has transformed search for me, and the results remind me of what Google felt like decades ago. I find stuff on brave that i never would find on google or duck duck go. For example, trying to buy some thuja &quot;green giants&quot; (a kind of tree for landscaping) uncovered dozens of mom and pop operations nationwide, plus the insights from their local websites, that are typically buried under 5 layers of SEO garbage on google.
brightball将近 3 年前
I’ve been using Brave Search for the last couple of weeks after stints with DDG and Kagi. Brave has been the best experience by far.
mbesto将近 3 年前
I recently switched to Neeva from DDG. DDG&#x27;s results were, ummm, not great.<p>Has anyone compared Neeva to Brave? Better&#x2F;worse?
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princevegeta89将近 3 年前
Is there any chance that people not using Brave Browser would use Brave Search at all?
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emaro将近 3 年前
Nice.<p>However note that awful misleading trendline they added to their chart.
dubswithus将近 3 年前
I think many are going to love this:<p>&gt; We’re excited to announce the long-awaited beta release of an innovative new Brave Search feature: Goggles. Goggles will enable anyone, or any community of people, to create sets of rules and filters to constrain the searchable space and &#x2F; or alter the ordering of search results. Anyone could then choose to apply a Goggle—or extend it—to their view of Brave Search results. Essentially, Goggles will act as a re-ranking option on top of the Brave Search index.
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robonerd将近 3 年前
Nice for them. But I find general-purpose search engines are becoming worse across the board. They&#x27;re all so bad now that I find them to be a waste of the time more often than not. I&#x27;ve found myself relying more on the search functionality built into websites. Instead of going to google&#x2F;ddg&#x2F;brave with the intent of landing on a wikipedia page, I go to wikipedia directly and search there. Wikipedia&#x27;s search is much better than I remember it being, and I don&#x27;t have to scroll through half a page of commercial results before finding the page I&#x27;m looking for (if what you&#x27;re searching for is something that could be sold to you, that&#x27;s what these general purpose search engines will prioritize. They all have a very strong commercial bias.)
sydthrowaway将近 3 年前
I want to use Brave Search but struggling to figure out what to search for.
mrkramer将近 3 年前
Brave&#x27;s index is too similar to Google&#x27;s nothing better or worse just roughly the same. I might start using Bing because it seems like the lesser evil of all. At this point Google is too much of a mess.
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