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If I cold emailed you, I apologize

30 点作者 loh将近 3 年前

9 条评论

alangibson将近 3 年前
He did the right thing wrong.<p>Cold emailing in the B2B space is totally normal. He just wasn&#x27;t cold emailing. The sheer numbers alone, combined with the fact that he used some scumbag data broker to get contact info, means to me that he was actually just spamming people.<p>If he had individually researched each company, then after deciding he could likely help them, looked for the right contact in their org and personally contacted them, he would have ended up doing the right thing right.<p>He would have ended up sending more like 80 emails, not 800.
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jasode将近 3 年前
<i>&gt;But against my better judgment, in an attempt to replicate that first sale, I sent out maybe 800 emails over the span of a few weeks to potentially relevant startups and app development companies (targeted via Apollo.io), </i><p>Never heard of Apollo.io before so I went to their web landing page <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apollo.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apollo.io</a> which touts : <i>&quot;Search, engage and convert over 250 million contacts at over 60 million companies with Apollo’s sales intelligence and engagement platform.&quot;</i><p>That type of text would seem to set off all sorts of alarm bells about the service: <i>&quot;Hey wait a sec... how&#x27;d they get all those business contact email addresses? They couldn&#x27;t possibly get 250 million people to willingly submit contact information for marketing?!?&quot;</i><p>And some googling around does confirm that they&#x27;re a data broker that scrapes sites like LinkedIn for contact information without people knowing about it. One google result was a HN comment: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23955944" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23955944</a><p>The point of all the above is.... I can&#x27;t see how sending any bulk marketing emails to a list gathered in a secretive and hostile way would be good for your startup product. Wouldn&#x27;t many (most?) recipients wonder <i>&quot;How&#x27;d you get my email address?&quot;</i> which would poison whatever product you&#x27;re trying to sell?<p>Does anyone have any legitimate success stories from using Apollo.io the way op tried?<p>++EDIT to be more specific about the scenario: an entrepreneur with a programming dev tool like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.molecule.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.molecule.dev&#x2F;</a> that sent a bunch of cold emails via Apollo.io and got new customers. The <i>target demographic</i> of buyers for developer tools seems like the most hostile to reach via cold emails like that.<p>Does Apollo.io even reveal the actual email addresses to you ? Or do they only forward your marketing message?
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shalmanese将近 3 年前
I&#x27;ve noticed that most of us contain a psychological quirk that when we believe we should do something that we really don&#x27;t want to do, we subconsciously do the worst version of the thing we can as a form of self sabotage. Partially, it&#x27;s so we can say to ourselves, &quot;See, X doesn&#x27;t work after all, I don&#x27;t need to do it anymore&quot; and partially, it&#x27;s because we&#x27;re secretly afraid of a blow to our ego if an action we staked our identity on being wrong turns out actually to be right.<p>Whatever the reason, it&#x27;s a habit that you need to take notice of and exterminate within you. Other people aren&#x27;t stupid. If enough other people are saying do a thing that you can&#x27;t understand why anyone would do, don&#x27;t bother doing it unenthusiastically. Either commit to an act of radical empathy and truly understand why other people are excited to do it or decide it&#x27;s too much of a bother and don&#x27;t do it.<p>Without reading the emails, I can&#x27;t tell if the low response rate is due in any part to how the email is crafted but I have a reasonably high confidence based on the blog post that the author was intellectually capable enough to have executed a better cold email campaign but couldn&#x27;t get over the psychological hurdle.
dylanpyle将近 3 年前
I&#x27;m pretty agnostic on cold emails as a strategy, but this article doesn&#x27;t mention the specific sourcing method used here which I found a bit distasteful (but common) — scraping the HN &quot;Who&#x27;s hiring&quot; thread:<p><pre><code> Hey Dylan! I&#x27;m Luke Hager with Molecule.dev, and I&#x27;m emailing you because I saw your post on HN. I&#x27;ve been looking around for companies like CALA who might be able to make good use of Molecule.dev. I see that you&#x27;re using TypeScript, React, PostgreSQL, Node and other modern web&#x2F;mobile tech. </code></pre> At the very least this goes against the guidance in the monthly thread (&quot;Readers: please only email if you are personally interested in the job&quot;)
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harel将近 3 年前
This warm apology for a cold email is probably more effective as a marketing tool than and freezer load of emails. This is said without any intention of sarcasm. Today I learned about your project and it looks pretty cool. Good luck!
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seibelj将近 3 年前
I’ve started to get emails followed by text messages which include my name.<p>“Hey James, just thought I’d should you a quick text in addition to my email…”<p>I already mark any unsolicited email from a vendor as spam. The text is way too far.
focusedone将近 3 年前
I hate spam as much as any rational human, and to be honest I&#x27;ve never thought about this from the perspective of OP. You&#x27;ve worked hard to make something you&#x27;re proud of but now how do you let people know about it?<p>There&#x27;s a qualitative difference between a software author sending an email directly and some random mega-corp adding thousands of emails to a list with a hidden unsubscribe.<p>Good luck to you, OP. It&#x27;d be really interesting to hear more about how you work through this!
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Komodai将近 3 年前
So the guy personally hates cold emails and calls them spam, but then goes ahead and does it himself? + scraped the emails from HN<p>Sorry, but you are an idiot, harsh but don&#x27;t care.
meatsauce将近 3 年前
How dare you do regular business and try to grow your company, quality of life, and QOL of your customers?
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