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Auto manufacturer family tree: Who owns what?

276 点作者 batirch将近 3 年前

33 条评论

csours将近 3 年前
Disclosure: I work for GM. Anything here is solely my own opinion or experience.<p>Fun fact: Chevrolet kind of bought GM. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.history.com&#x2F;this-day-in-history&#x2F;gm-buys-chevrolet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.history.com&#x2F;this-day-in-history&#x2F;gm-buys-chevrole...</a><p>&gt; &quot;Still the owner of a considerable portion of GM stock, Durant began to purchase more shares in the company as his profits from Chevrolet allowed. In a final move to regain control, Durant offered GM stockholders five shares of Chevrolet stock for every one share of GM stock. Though GM stock prices were exorbitantly high, the market interest in Chevrolet made the five-for-one trade irresistible to GM shareholders. With the sale, concluded on May 2, 1918, Durant regained control of GM&quot;<p>And then after this the DuPont Family effectively controlled GM for quite a while. They previously had a relationship because GM used DuPont paints.<p>----<p>As to the manufacturer family tree: things get significantly more complicated when you add joint ventures. Ford famously partnered with Mazda, Chrysler partnered with Mitsubishi, and GM partnered with Isuzu and Suzuki and even Toyota for a while (NUMMI). Nowadays GM and Honda have a few codevelopment projects; even the concept of what a joint venture means has significantly changed. My list is this comment is far from authoritative or exhaustive.
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belval将近 3 年前
I always wanted something like this but for all companies. I feel like it would be a great tool to help people understand how giant conglomerates are actually a big part of what we consume.<p>My favorite are outdoor clothing companies which almost all tie-in to the same Chinese investment fund. Or how glasses companies all belong to that one French conglomerate.
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sorenjan将近 3 年前
I only skimmed trough it, but the section about Polestar is wrong. It says that their racing division was renamed Lynk &amp; Co. Lynk &amp; Co is a different car brand focusing on a subscription sales model. Polestar&#x27;s racing division was renamed Cyan Racing. Polestar is also partly owned by Geely, which of course also owns Volvo which owns part of Polestar...<p>Geely recently bought the mobile phone manufacturer Meizu.
camjohnson26将近 3 年前
And a few months ago Tesla was valued more than all the brands on the list, combined. If that isn’t a sign of a stock market bubble I don’t know what is.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;14&#x2F;tesla-valuation-more-than-nine-largest-carmakers-combined-why.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;14&#x2F;tesla-valuation-more-than-ni...</a>
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legitster将近 3 年前
Interesting fun fact - the Japanese sub-brands were mostly created to get around US import restrictions. At the time, the US had super imposing quantity limitations on Japanese cars. So the workaround was the companies spun off luxury companies (Lexus, Acura, Infiniti) so they could sell fewer cars at a higher markup.
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gennarro将近 3 年前
Anyone interested in this should dive into the NHTSA data. Something like “make by manufacturer” explains this quite nicely, albeit without the history that the article nicely explained. Example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;transportation.report&#x2F;manufacturer&#x2F;976&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;transportation.report&#x2F;manufacturer&#x2F;976&#x2F;</a>
skhr0680将近 3 年前
It’s not mentioned in the article, but Toyota owns 20% of Subaru
smohnot将近 3 年前
Written from a Australian perspective &amp; is missing some US marques, like that Honda owns Acura and Ford owns Lincoln
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sharikous将近 3 年前
Ferrari is listed as independent (rightly,) but it is owned in a big part by the Agnelli family (Exor) who own also a big part of Stellantis.<p>No employee in the Ferrari factory has a non-Stellantis car (Alfa Romeo or Maserati preferably)<p>So I think it should be clarified that Ferrari and Stellantis (specifically Fiat) are related
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CSMastermind将近 3 年前
I know that Ford takes a lot of flak (deservingly in many cases) but I&#x27;ve always been very impressed by how consistently the company has seemingly been run. If I remember correctly, and I&#x27;m sure someone will correct me if I don&#x27;t, they are the only one of the &#x27;Big 3&#x27; American auto manufacturers to not need a bailout.
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photochemsyn将近 3 年前
It&#x27;d be interesting to see this expanded into the secondary supply chains, and the primary factories, all of which may or may not be owned by the car corporations themselves.<p>These networks sprawl out pretty quickly, I imagine. Modern cars rely on microcontrollers and microprocessors, and without chip fabs that comes to a halt. They also require varying amounts of steel, aluminum, carbon fiber, other plastics and metals, and natural rubber.<p>Then there&#x27;s the physical locations and the international ownership &#x2F; leasing &#x2F; agreement structures. For example, Rust Belt manufacturing of vehicles in the USA for the US market has mostly relocated to Mexico:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;napsintl.com&#x2F;mexico-manufacturing-news&#x2F;mexicos-auto-industry&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;napsintl.com&#x2F;mexico-manufacturing-news&#x2F;mexicos-auto-...</a><p>&gt; &quot;According to Forbes, about 80 percent of the cars manufactured in Mexico are exported globally, with about two-thirds of those exports going to the United States. In 2014, the industry comprised about $19 billion in investments. Production for that year was estimated to reach 3.2 million cars, double what it had been five years prior.&quot;<p>A network map of everything that went into a Mexican-made vehicle that was purchased in the USA would be highly complex, and if you then asked for an ownership map of all the shell companies, holding compenies, investors, primary owners etc. involved, the complexity would likely increase by a factor of ten.<p>Just tracking the global production and ownership of raw lithium and electric car battery manufacturing, for example, would be a fairly massive undertaking.
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adolph将近 3 年前
While &quot;ownership&quot; is often interpreted in terms of value-flows and control, the model of Ikea&#x27;s corporate structure indicates that actually modeling value-flows and control would be more helpful than using &quot;ownership&quot; as a proxy.<p><i>IKEA’s organizational structure might sound a bit confusing at first, but I looked into it to see how its business model works so that you could gain clarity on that.</i><p><i>Put it shortly, IKEA as a brand comprises two separate owners. INGKA Holding B.V. owns the IKEA Group, the holding the group.</i><p><i>At the same time that is held by the Stichting INGKA Foundation, which is the owner of the whole Group. IKEA Group is not the owner of the brand, which is managed by Inter IKEA Systems B.V., part of Inter IKEA B.V. that is the real owner of the IKEA Concept.</i><p><i>Thus, IKEA Group is a franchisee that pays 3% of royalties to Inter IKEA Systems.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fourweekmba.com&#x2F;who-owns-ikea&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fourweekmba.com&#x2F;who-owns-ikea&#x2F;</a>
mc32将近 3 年前
Stellantis is like the new Step parent to a bunch of step children that were given up for adoption by their biological parents. Some premier brands but also a lot of second tier brands and smaller brands overall. I wonder if they can keep so many brands afloat. Over the last 20 years or so the larger MFGs have shed brands and consolidated.
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stewx将近 3 年前
Wow, somehow I was unaware that Hyundai now owns the majority of Kia.
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sgt将近 3 年前
Even though Volkswagen (VW) owns cars like Porsche and others, it should be mentioned that Porsche SE controls and owns majority in VW.
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Markoff将近 3 年前
Wow, I don&#x27;t follow car news recently, so just now discovered Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat and Opel have same owner now (Stellantis), still can&#x27;t comprehened how could be such merger approved by regulators.<p>Also was aware that Nissan and Renault cooperate, but didn&#x27;t know there is also Mitshubishi with them. Btw. Adobe Acrobat logo would like to have a word.
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3D30497420将近 3 年前
Page seems down? Here&#x27;s the Google Cache: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:BWE--RvF0TkJ:https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.whichcar.com.au&#x2F;car-advice&#x2F;car-manufacturer-brands-family-tree" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:BWE--R...</a>
saisundar将近 3 年前
Given the recent influx of EVs, some of these charts explain why certain brands seem to have launched them now.<p>Hyundai, kia and Genesis for instance, share the same ev platform.<p>Volvo and polestar too,with their EVs.<p>Audi, Vw, Porsche too have all launched EVs with surprisingly similar specs ( especially in terms of miles&#x2F;kwh).<p>These ownership trees help explain why, clearly.
voiper1将近 3 年前
Related ... 10 companies control the food industry:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;10-companies-control-the-food-industry-2016-9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;10-companies-control-the-foo...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;7eOPd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;7eOPd</a>
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whalesalad将近 3 年前
Stellantis is a monster.
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netfl0将近 3 年前
I did not know TATA owns Land Rover and Jaguar!
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kmlx将近 3 年前
mazda still going strong, with toyota owning just 5% of it. excellent, as their mx5&#x2F;miata is a gem of car.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-toyota-mazda-idUSKBN1AK0RF" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-toyota-mazda-idUSKBN1AK0R...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.automotiveworld.com&#x2F;news-releases&#x2F;mazda-continues-to-grow-market-share-in-europe&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.automotiveworld.com&#x2F;news-releases&#x2F;mazda-continue...</a>
fredsmith219将近 3 年前
It would be interesting to see this for auto component companies. For example AC Delco used to be owned by GM, then was spun off as part of Delphi, which changed its name to Aptiv.
iancmceachern将近 3 年前
This misses the stake Toyota has in Subaru
explaingarlic将近 3 年前
Good of Stellanis to buy&#x2F;own all of the companies that my Dad told me not to buy cars from :D
Markoff将近 3 年前
Btw if you put Lexus under Toyota and Infinity under Nissan, you should also put Acura under Honda, all of these are equivalents of luxurious subbrands of mother brands.
xnx将近 3 年前
This is great. If I was more motivated, I&#x27;d look up some sales data and make a treemap to represent the relative size of these brands.
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basicplus2将近 3 年前
One thing is for sure, ever since daimler and chrysler were joined at the hip, mercedes vehicle quality dropped like a stone.
lizardactivist将近 3 年前
It&#x27;s too bad that Saab is gone.
ComputerCat将近 3 年前
Very cool, thanks for sharing
option将近 3 年前
Before buying any Volvo or Polestar consider that those are owned by China.
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SomeHacker44将近 3 年前
Tesla is mistakenly listed as having been founded by Elon Musk. (See e.g. Wikipedia for accurate information.)
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dpedu将近 3 年前
&gt; Tesla – Founded 2003<p>&gt; It was founded by former PayPal owner Elon Musk<p>Hah. Nope.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tesla,_Inc.#Founding_(2003%E2%80%932004)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tesla,_Inc.#Founding_(2003%E2%...</a>
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