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Element (Matrix) launches Chatterbox, end-to-end encrypted embedded chat

244 点作者 watsonkr将近 3 年前

12 条评论

sylvain_kerkour将近 3 年前
While I like the idea, I feel the that this announce is wrong.<p>First the pricing is outrageously high.<p>Second, why not provide a link to try it? And screenshots to see how it looks from an agent&#x27;s point of view. Because Most embedded chat widgets come with advanced customer support features, and Element applications are not designed for that.<p>Don&#x27;t tell, show!
jeroenhd将近 3 年前
Edit: Github link at [3], couldn&#x27;t find it when I originally wrote my comment below<p>I wonder how this compares to alternatives like [1] and [2] that you can also host yourself.<p>There was also a Matrix project *that I can&#x27;t find for the life of me) featuring multi-agent live chat support with multiple agents being able to join and leave a room. I suppose the E2EE support is what sets it apart, though I&#x27;m not sure if that&#x27;s actually a feature you really need.<p>Half the features advertised seem to be existing EMS features (like talking across chat services). I suppose you can use this to portal a web chat box into Slack but honestly I think there are better solutions.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;osousa&#x2F;livematrix" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;osousa&#x2F;livematrix</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nomadic-labs&#x2F;safesupport-chatbox" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nomadic-labs&#x2F;safesupport-chatbox</a><p>[3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;vector-im&#x2F;chatterbox" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;vector-im&#x2F;chatterbox</a>
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maxloh将近 3 年前
What is the benefit of end to end encryption in this scenario?<p>There is no risk of service provider spying on you because you as the business is the service provider.
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tcfhgj将近 3 年前
How does E2EE work here? How can the user know their communication isn&#x27;t being intercepted?
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t6jvcereio将近 3 年前
Incidentally I tried matrix for the first time on the basis of someone recommending it here in HN, and it&#x27;s extremely slow
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theogravity将近 3 年前
I&#x27;m not familiar with pricing in this space, but $3.80 &#x2F; MAU (says $3 for element product, then 0.80 for the chatterbox product on top) seems really expensive that you would have very specific use-cases (government, hospitals?) to use the product to want to pay the price for it.
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bsaul将近 3 年前
not sure i understand what the point is.. Embedded usually means c2b communication, not c2c. The professional you&#x27;re communicating with is probably already hosting its computer&#x27;s data on the company&#x27;s network...
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midislack将近 3 年前
Bonus - unlike Signal they don&#x27;t need your phone number or DNA...
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chrismorgan将近 3 年前
&gt; <i>It’s a surprise to most people that the majority of embedded chat is not end-to-end encrypted (E2EE).</i><p>I don’t know about the general populace, but I would instead be surprised to encounter E2EE in embedded chat.<p>I also go to what I keep on saying in cases like this: first-party end-to-end encryption is broken by design. To have any semblance of real security, you <i>need</i> to self-host the client software, preferably also obtaining it from a different party from the transport provider. Self-hosting of the entire chat system is the only truly dependable solution here, and in that context for this application, end-to-end encryption adds no value at all, being equivalent to transport encryption.
hda2将近 3 年前
This is very interesting. Does Chatterbox require agents to use specialized matrix clients to interact with customers or will any matrix client do? (e.g Element for android)<p>If any matrix element would do, how will new customers appear in the client? Will they pop up as a new direct chat?
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upofadown将近 3 年前
How do you verify that you are actually chatting with the entity that you want to be chatting with?
encryptluks2将近 3 年前
This is just another firm reminder that Matrix isn&#x27;t the revolution against IRC&#x2F;XMPP and instead is just a company running Microsoft&#x27;s playbook.
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