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World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

239 点作者 Manheim将近 3 年前

14 条评论

kebman将近 3 年前
Just to be clear, the tree is found in Dalarna in Sweden, though this is indeed East of Trysil in Norway. Since Sciencenorway.no (!) is a Norwegian outlet, they need to at least attempt to make their articles relevant for Norway.<p>The outlet is the English version of Forskning.no. <i>Forskning</i> means research in Norwegian, but in this instance it really means science. Their focus is to bring news about what Norwegian scientists are up to with popular science articles for the masses. That&#x27;s why some of their articles seem a tad tabloid at times.<p>The tradition in Norway is that the most tabloid articles are published during the main summer vacation, when newspapers employ interns and temp journalists. We even have a word for such articles: <i>Agurknytt.</i> It means cucumber news, and implies that the article is desperately trying to make news out of something that isn&#x27;t.
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vesinisa将近 3 年前
That title is rather clickbaity for a &quot;science&quot; magazine. Crucially, the tree prominently featured in the large picture is not 10,000 years old and only its root system originates from that period:<p>&gt; Today Old Tjikko’s tree trunk is only five metres high. Although the spruce may have had many such trunks over the millennia, the tree&#x27;s root system has survived all these years. No part of today’s living tree is as old as 9 500 years, but genetically, the tree is exactly the same individual as when it began to germinate.<p>Indeed if we allow equating the plant to the age and extent of its root system (genetically the same organism, although no part of the present plant is as old), I already found this other tree root system named &quot;Pando&quot; in Utah, USA, that is estimated to be up to 14,000 years old - making the Swedish spruce&#x27;s claim to world&#x27;s oldest dubious:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pando_(tree)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pando_(tree)</a><p>Pando is also thought to be the largest and heaviest known single organism, covering 43 hectares and weighing 6,000 tons.
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bencollier49将近 3 年前
This blew my mind. Gives an idea of the timescales we&#x27;re talking about:<p>&quot;The reason why Old Tjikko now finds itself on the barren rock near Trysil – more than a hundred metres higher than what is considered the tree line – is simply that the spruce tree rose along with the mountain it grows on during the land uplift that followed the ice age.&quot;
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BLO716将近 3 年前
Reminds me of a story of Donal Rusk Currey and his unfortunate undoing while doing his job.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&#x2F;smart-news&#x2F;how-one-man-accidentally-killed-the-oldest-tree-ever-125764872&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&#x2F;smart-news&#x2F;how-one-man-accide...</a><p>One last note, as I&#x27;ve been to The Ancient Bristlecone Pine Forest in recent years, it&#x27;s an AMAZING panacea of views up high as the eye can see. I THINK you can see almost all of the Sierra Nevada across the valley in a couple points, and its breath taking how beautiful it is.<p>Worth visiting, but as a short fat white guy in technology - be ready for the thin air, and absolutely grueling hikes if you explore. It&#x27;s SOOOO worth it for anyone in the Bay Area to make this trek.
wohfab将近 3 年前
Isn&#x27;t the &quot;oldest tree&quot; always &quot;still growing&quot;, until it doesn&#x27;t grow? Then it&#x27;s dead? Then it&#x27;s not the oldest tree anymore?
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hinkley将近 3 年前
Had to read this in reader mode because while the text of the article was in English, the cookie pop up was in what I’m guessing is Norwegian, and covered most of the space where the text is. Who does that?
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Andrew_nenakhov将近 3 年前
&gt; No part of today’s living tree is as old as 9 500 years, but genetically, the tree is exactly the same individual as when it began to germinate.<p>It looks like we&#x27;ve found a Theseus tree!
Graffur将近 3 年前
What is the rule with Cookie notices bring in a different language? Strangely, this is the first one I have come across not in English.
joosters将近 3 年前
Birds migrate over winters. Spruce trees migrate over ice ages...
davidspiess将近 3 年前
I recently watched a german documentary &quot;Das geheime Leben der Bäume&quot; [1] where they visit this exact tree. Highly recommend it. The documentary is based on a novel of the same name by the author Peter Wohlleben [2].<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.3sat.de&#x2F;film&#x2F;dokumentarfilm&#x2F;das-geheime-leben-der-baeume-104.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.3sat.de&#x2F;film&#x2F;dokumentarfilm&#x2F;das-geheime-leben-de...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.de&#x2F;Hidden-Life-Trees-Communicate-Discoveries&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1771642483" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.de&#x2F;Hidden-Life-Trees-Communicate-Discover...</a>
jimhefferon将近 3 年前
Did other people think before clicking on the link &quot;I really hope they don&#x27;t say where it is or provide a picture, because someone is sure to go find it and chop it down&quot;? Has the Internet ruined me?
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CalRobert将近 3 年前
If you happen to be in California and want to see the oldest non-clonal trees in the world, visit the Bristlecone Pines in the white mountains near Mammoth. But maybe do it soon... <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;environment&#x2F;story&#x2F;2022-06-27&#x2F;drought-and-bark-beetles-now-threaten-earths-oldest-trees" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;environment&#x2F;story&#x2F;2022-06-27&#x2F;drought...</a>
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throw0101a将近 3 年前
There&#x27;s a list:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_oldest_trees" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_oldest_trees</a>
breindog将近 3 年前
Absolutely wild to see the surrounding land &quot;grow&quot; this spruce 1000 meters above the typical tree line in the region.